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Antiviral chewing gum to reduce influenza and herpes simplex virus transmission

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Re: Antiviral chewing gum to reduce influenza and herpes simplex virus transmission

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They're not OTC medicines. They are prescription-only medicines.

Prescriptions are easy to come by. Talk to people, their signature unlocks worlds.

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Re: Antiviral chewing gum to reduce influenza and herpes simplex virus transmission

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Medical ethics focus on the benefit to a specific individual - your patient. This defuses the "Should I kill one to save ten?" moral dilemma - the individual is your patient, even if the other ten are also your patients, you must not harm the one. But for vaccines it also means that the wider societal implications are not ethically relevant So, medics won't recommend that you give patient A an intervention which is o…

We literally vaccinate people against diseases they might never personally catch because preventing transmission is part of the goal

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Re: Antiviral chewing gum to reduce influenza and herpes simplex virus transmission

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Medical ethics focus on the benefit to a specific individual - your patient. This defuses the "Should I kill one to save ten?" moral dilemma - the individual is your patient, even if the other ten are also your patients, you must not harm the one. But for vaccines it also means that the wider societal implications are not ethically relevant So, medics won't recommend that you give patient A an intervention which is o…

We literally vaccinate people against diseases they might never personally catch because preventing transmission is part of the goal

> might never personally catch [emphasis mine]

And there's the mistake in your understanding. The personal benefit rationale is that they might catch it if they aren't treated. The public health benefit is a reason a government might promote this, but the reason medics will recommend it is personal benefit.

Re: Antiviral chewing gum to reduce influenza and herpes simplex virus transmission

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The antiviral valacyclovir was discussed in an article in The Economist recently. Is used to treat herpes simplex or herpes zoster (shingles). What the Economist article discussed is that the drug seems to reduce the severity and onset of dementia. The drug's patent expired long ago. I'll be seeing my doc soon and will be requesting to begin treatment. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valaciclovir https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.n…

A family member ran into some insane insomnia when they took valcyclovir prophylactically. Like falling asleep at bedtime, and waking up 20 minutes later like they had a good a nap.

YMMV.

Re: Antiviral chewing gum to reduce influenza and herpes simplex virus transmission

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I never got the HPV vaccine and am now too old. Recently I had a papilloma removed from my soft palate near my uvula. They checked it for cancer but not HPV, even though they said it was almost certainly HPV. So for $129 I took the OraRisk HPV test which tests for 51 strains, including the ones associated with cancer, and the results came up negative. So I maybe sort of probably don't have HPV, or may have but don't…

>I never got the HPV vaccine and am now too old

It can still help even with previous exposure. This is outdated information. Also it helps against 9 strains. Most people are not exposed to all 9 instantly.

Further you can be exposed without having intercourse. Skin contact is enough. Even walking barefoot in the gym.

You will have to pay yourself probably, but since you paid $129 for a test I'm assuming you could afford at least one vaccine dose.

Also the NHS did a study and found a single dose is sufficient.

Re: Antiviral chewing gum to reduce influenza and herpes simplex virus transmission

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I am not sure why all the replies are indicating you are anti-science or anti-vax. It is annoying to be told something from your doctor, internalize it, have your doctor suggest flu and covid vaccine for years but never HPV, and then be told on HackerNews "you should have the HPV" and now I am supposed to tell my doctor I can do his job better than him because I read something on the internet even though most doctors…

In the United States, you are in trouble if you don’t advocate for your own health.

While I had above average health care in my time Canada, I don't think this advice is limited to the USA.

Re: Antiviral chewing gum to reduce influenza and herpes simplex virus transmission

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My innate immune system is here for chewing gum and binding viral glycans, and I’m all out of specific lectins.

Looks like this works by apparently binding complex N-glycans on the viral envelope. I can’t imagine this is particularly specific, but the good news is that in the mucosa, you should see relatively few N-glycans, so I guess it will hit the right stuff?

Re: Antiviral chewing gum to reduce influenza and herpes simplex virus transmission

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My innate immune system is here for chewing gum and binding viral glycans, and I’m all out of specific lectins. Looks like this works by apparently binding complex N-glycans on the viral envelope. I can’t imagine this is particularly specific, but the good news is that in the mucosa, you should see relatively few N-glycans, so I guess it will hit the right stuff?

That has to be one of the best comments I've read on here in a while.. a nice chuckle for the morning.

Re: Antiviral chewing gum to reduce influenza and herpes simplex virus transmission

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They’re available OTC basically everywhere.

They're not OTC medicines. They are prescription-only medicines.

It depends on the country. There are many countries where oral antivirals are available OTC.

To say this drug is prescription-only is plainly not true.

Re: Antiviral chewing gum to reduce influenza and herpes simplex virus transmission

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I'm surprised there aren't any commercialized products considering its efficacy and simple origin. I also wonder if there is any way it could be modified to protect more of the body besides just saliva.

> there aren't any commercialized product Isn't this relatively new research? > protect more of the body There's only one part of my body that chews gum ;)

This sounds like the words of someone who has tried others.
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