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Whistleblower tells senators that Meta undermined U.S. security, interests

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Re: Whistleblower tells senators that Meta undermined U.S. security, interests

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> Meta says it regularly discloses the fact that it generates advertising revenue from advertisers based in China but says that doesn’t mean that it operates services in China. It says its services are banned in China.

This is phrasing is very weaselly. All foreign companies in China either partner with or are operated by a domestic company like Alibaba or Tencent. Saying "we don't operate our services in China" is like saying water is wet to people who know what that really means. It doesn't in anyway invalidate the claims made against them.

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> Meta says it regularly discloses the fact that it generates advertising revenue from advertisers based in China but says that doesn’t mean that it operates services in China. It says its services are banned in China. This is phrasing is very weaselly. All foreign companies in China either partner with or are operated by a domestic company like Alibaba or Tencent. Saying "we don't operate our services in China" is l…

Yeah they are being weasly about it. They offer advertising services on China, just not their front end social media service.

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> Meta says it regularly discloses the fact that it generates advertising revenue from advertisers based in China but says that doesn’t mean that it operates services in China. It says its services are banned in China. This is phrasing is very weaselly. All foreign companies in China either partner with or are operated by a domestic company like Alibaba or Tencent. Saying "we don't operate our services in China" is l…

It might not be that weasley if they only allow Chinese companies to buy advertising

It would not require a partnership to buy stuff outside the country

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> Meta says it regularly discloses the fact that it generates advertising revenue from advertisers based in China but says that doesn’t mean that it operates services in China. It says its services are banned in China. This is phrasing is very weaselly. All foreign companies in China either partner with or are operated by a domestic company like Alibaba or Tencent. Saying "we don't operate our services in China" is l…

But this isn't Meta operating in China. This is Chinese companies operating in the US.

It's not clear to me why it matters that Chinese companies advertise on Facebook, nor in what way this would give them leverage to force Facebook to commit the treason alleged by this article.

Without further evidence the story isn't really adding up.

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>In remarks to a hearing convened by Sen. Josh Hawley (R-Mo.), Wynn-Williams alleged that Meta executives worked vigorously to “win favor” with leaders in Beijing to build an $18 billion business in China.

Has Hawley demonstrated similar interest about Elon's business dealings in China? Elon owes much of his net worth to the CCP's Shanghai factory.

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> And she says she has the “documents” to back up her accusations. Then show those documents? It's hard to take these allegations seriously when the mysterious proof is only alluded to, not submitted as part of the testimony.

Almost certainly blocked by NDA; that is her inviting Congress to issue a subpoena so she has legal cover.

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> And she says she has the “documents” to back up her accusations. Then show those documents? It's hard to take these allegations seriously when the mysterious proof is only alluded to, not submitted as part of the testimony.

Almost certainly blocked by NDA; that is her inviting Congress to issue a subpoena so she has legal cover.

A corporate NDA doesn't block someone from cooperating with legal proceedings or submitting evidence to a hearing.

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> They have threatened her with $50,000 in punitive damages every time she mentions Facebook in public … even if the statements she is making are true,” he said.

Unless Congress asks for the testimony, which is probably why Meta tried to stop the hearing.

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