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Really feel like point number two weakens your overall point here
If someone with experience could explain why 1x6 people should be charged a higher price than 6x1 people, I am curious.
Isn't it better to factory reset a phone before entering the US and then restore a backup?
Entering with a completely clean phone is suspicious. To any border patrol agent intent on abusing their power, that screams "I'm trying to hide something and want to be detained for an unspecified amount of time". If you're trying to protect your data, probably better to set up a secondary, plaubile profile, and restore from backup after crossing the border. Or to take a burner phone and buy a completely new one ins…
"Locking down" is almost always a bad approach when it comes to border crossings. You have very little rights at the border, so keeping your phone locked and refusing to divulge the 20 characters password isn't really an option. Even without the threat of detaining you, they can refuse entry (if you're not a citizen/permanent resident), or seize your $1000 phone/laptop. Far better to wipe your phone and restore from…
>or seize your $1000 phone/laptop. So be it. I used to say that the reason I valued my privacy was not that I did not trust my government _today_, it was the fact that data would be available to every potential authoritarian government _tomorrow_. Welp, today has become tomorrow, and yeah, I'd _absolutely_ rather just have my devices seized than have the contents of my phone dumped into a database that can be searche…
You're totally ignoring the option of wiping your phone prior to crossing, and avoiding both fates.
>Rights (like the 4th amendment) that are not exercised are not upheld. I'm sure the threat of having one's devices stolen (let's be clear, that's what this is), is enough to deter many people. For myself, my next course of action would be to contact the ACLU and sue the government for violating the 4th amendment.
This already has been litigated, and the courts have affirmed CBP can deny entry or seize your phone. By all means, try to affect change by writing to your senator or whatever, but displays of civil disobedience is mostly pointless. ACLU won't even take on your case because it's been settled, and the chance of it being overturned is slim.
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I guess that's what you're implying, but my bet is that you would look suspicious.
Maybe I can tattoo a US flag on my bicep. Or did I go too far?
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Entering with a completely clean phone is suspicious. To any border patrol agent intent on abusing their power, that screams "I'm trying to hide something and want to be detained for an unspecified amount of time". If you're trying to protect your data, probably better to set up a secondary, plaubile profile, and restore from backup after crossing the border. Or to take a burner phone and buy a completely new one ins…
Maybe it's suspicious in Silicon Valley, but I know plenty of people who make minimal use of their phone. In Japan, flip phones are supposed to still be fairly popular.
"Locking down" is almost always a bad approach when it comes to border crossings. You have very little rights at the border, so keeping your phone locked and refusing to divulge the 20 characters password isn't really an option. Even without the threat of detaining you, they can refuse entry (if you're not a citizen/permanent resident), or seize your $1000 phone/laptop. Far better to wipe your phone and restore from…
This 100x, last time I crossed a border I shutdown my phone and because my phone was off the border guard considered that suspicious. Also apparently not using google maps is considered suspicious even if you're in an area you've lived your entire life.
Ignoring the US political situation for a moment I want to point out how ridiculous modern phones and apps storage access given to their users is. You used to be able to mount a phone as a full hard drive and have access to all your files, do a real full backup without some encrypted databases that only facebook, google or apple hold the key for. The first tragedy is that we accepted that the US gives no rights to no…
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Does anyone more knowledgable know if US citizen 5th amendment rights still applies at the border, i.e. I can't legally be compelled to unlock my phone at the US border? Law is not my area of expertise at all. (The article might have addressed this but it's behind a paywall.) Thanks in advance.
The ACLU has authoritative advice [1]. The article about electronic device searches [2] explains that the government claims the right to search devices without a warrant at the border. > U.S. citizens cannot be denied entry to the United States for refusing to provide passwords or unlocking devices. Refusal to do so might lead to delay, additional questioning, and/or officers seizing your device for further inspectio…
The situation at the U.S. border re phone privacy is exceptionally good . In most countries this isn't a live issue because you have no such rights and everyone would laugh at you for asserting them. There are exceptions, perhaps Germany? In Britain they'll throw you in prison for refusing to give them your phone password, and if you do they'll throw you in prison for the wrongthink tweets they find on your phone. Sh…
It's surreal for me to see such a headline and article on a major US newspaper.
we still have freedom of speech for now at least, actual citizens do, anyway