How University Students Use Claude
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How University Students Use Claude
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Re: How University Students Use Claude
#2Interesting article, but I think it downplays the incidence of students using Claude as an alternative to building foundational skills. I could easily see conversations that they outline as "Collaborative" primarily being a user walking Claude through multi-part problems or asking it to produce justifications for answers that students add to assignments.
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#3AI bubble seems close to collapsing. God knows how many billions have been invested and we still don't have an actual use case for AI which is good for humanity.
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#4AI bubble seems close to collapsing. God knows how many billions have been invested and we still don't have an actual use case for AI which is good for humanity.
I think I understand what you're trying to say.
We certainly improve productivity, but that is not necessarily good for humanity. Could be even worse.
i.e.: my company already expect less time for some tasks given that they _know_ I'll probably use some AI to do tasks. Which means I can humanly handle more context in a given week if the metric is "labour", but you end up with your brain completely melted.
Re: How University Students Use Claude
#5Interesting article, but I think it downplays the incidence of students using Claude as an alternative to building foundational skills. I could easily see conversations that they outline as "Collaborative" primarily being a user walking Claude through multi-part problems or asking it to produce justifications for answers that students add to assignments.
> I think it downplays the incidence of students using Claude as an alternative to building foundational skills
I think people will get more utility out of education programs that allow them to be productive with AI, at the expense of foundational knowledge
Universities have a different purpose and are tone deaf to why their students use universities for the last century: which is that the corporate sector decided university degrees were necessary despite 90% of the cross disciplinary learning being irrelevant.
Its not the university’s problem and they will outlive this meme of catering to the middle class’ upwards mobility at all. They existed before and will exist after.
The university may never be the place for a human to hone the skill of being augmented with AI but a trade school or bootcamp or other structured learning environment will be, for those not self started enough to sit through youtube videos and trawl discord servers
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#6AI bubble seems close to collapsing. God knows how many billions have been invested and we still don't have an actual use case for AI which is good for humanity.
I think I understand what you're trying to say. We certainly improve productivity, but that is not necessarily good for humanity. Could be even worse. i.e.: my company already expect less time for some tasks given that they _know_ I'll probably use some AI to do tasks. Which means I can humanly handle more context in a given week if the metric is "labour", but you end up with your brain completely melted.
> We certainly improve productivity
I think this is really still up for debate
We produce more output certainly but if it's overall lower quality than previous output is that really "improved productivity"?
There has to be a tipping point somewhere, where faster output of low quality work is actually decreasing productivity due to the efforts now required to keep the tower of garbage from toppling
Re: How University Students Use Claude
#7Interesting article, but I think it downplays the incidence of students using Claude as an alternative to building foundational skills. I could easily see conversations that they outline as "Collaborative" primarily being a user walking Claude through multi-part problems or asking it to produce justifications for answers that students add to assignments.
> Interesting article, but I think it downplays the incidence of students using Claude as an alternative to building foundational skills.
No shit. This is anecdotal evidence, but I was recently teaching a university CS class as a guest lecturer (at a somewhat below-average university), and almost all the students were basically copy-pasting task descriptions and error messages into ChatGPT in lieu of actually programming. No one seemed to even read the output, let alone be able to explain it. "Foundational skills" were near zero, as a result.
Anyway, I strongly suspect that this report is based on careful whitewashing and would reveal 75% cheating if examined more closely. But maybe there is a bit of sampling bias at play as well -- maybe the laziest students just never bother with anything but ChatGPT and Google Colab, while students using Claude have a little more motivation to learn something.
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#8Interesting article, but I think it downplays the incidence of students using Claude as an alternative to building foundational skills. I could easily see conversations that they outline as "Collaborative" primarily being a user walking Claude through multi-part problems or asking it to produce justifications for answers that students add to assignments.
Direct quote I heard from an undergrad taking statistics:
"Snapchat AI couldn't get it right so I skipped the assignment"
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#9I feel like Anthropic has an incentive to minimize how much students use LLMs to write their papers for them.
In the article, I guess this would be buried in
> Students also frequently used Claude to provide technical explanations or solutions for academic assignments (33.5%)—working with AI to debug and fix errors in coding assignments, implement programming algorithms and data structures, and explain or solve mathematical problems.
"Write my essay" would be considered a "solution for academic assignment," but by only referring to it obliquely in that paragraph they don't really tell us the prevalence of it.
(I also wonder if students are smart, and may keep outright usage of LLMs to complete assignments on a separate, non-university account, not trusting that Anthropic will keep their conversations private from the university if asked.)
Re: How University Students Use Claude
#10Interesting article, but I think it downplays the incidence of students using Claude as an alternative to building foundational skills. I could easily see conversations that they outline as "Collaborative" primarily being a user walking Claude through multi-part problems or asking it to produce justifications for answers that students add to assignments.
Direct quote I heard from an undergrad taking statistics: "Snapchat AI couldn't get it right so I skipped the assignment"
back in my day we used snap to send spicy photos now they're using AI to cheat on homework. im not sure what's worse