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Sweetener saccharin shows surprise power against antibiotic resistance

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Re: Sweetener saccharin shows surprise power against antibiotic resistance

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Post by BoingBoomTschak »

nineplay wrote: post #45
jader201 wrote: post #20

These days, about the only liquid you can consume without controversy is water. Some say coffee is good for you (in moderation), some say it's bad for you. Some say certain alcoholic drinks are good for you (in moderation), some say no amount of alcohol is good. Some say some artificial sweeteners have benefits, some say all of them are toxic. Some think fruit juices are good for you, because fruit. Some (most) say t…

The 'no fruit juice' thing really got on my nerves when my kids were little since people just throw it out with no qualifications. So really, if I cut up some oranges and squeeze the juice into a cup I can't give it to my kid because fruit = sugar = bad? It's such a reductionist way to look at food and nutrition. I also recently had a PT tell me that blending fruit into smoothies removes all the nutritional value, wh…

Or just do like me and switch to grapefruit juice. Awesome without drinking pure liquid sugar.

Re: Sweetener saccharin shows surprise power against antibiotic resistance

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Post by nineplay »

amarcheschi wrote: post #76
nineplay wrote: post #65

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I drink water in the US every day just fine, I don't think there's anything cultural going on here. No one drinks coffee or tea or beer or wine in Italy? Pop culture has deceived me.

Oh well coffee is definitely a given for a lot of Italians lol. Tea as well although less spread than coffee. I was talking more about drinks taken in cans or bigger quantities than a coffee/cup of tea. Wine is definitely more prevalent in the older gens, young people drink albeit less. Up until a few years ago - and in some older people is valid for today as well - there was the belief that a small glass of wine a d…

I'm specifically sympathetic to kids who are not ( in the US ) given coffee or tea or alcohol and still get scolded about having anything but water. I've been there, it gets dull.

Re: Sweetener saccharin shows surprise power against antibiotic resistance

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Post by amarcheschi »

nineplay wrote: post #82
amarcheschi wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh well coffee is definitely a given for a lot of Italians lol. Tea as well although less spread than coffee. I was talking more about drinks taken in cans or bigger quantities than a coffee/cup of tea. Wine is definitely more prevalent in the older gens, young people drink albeit less. Up until a few years ago - and in some older people is valid for today as well - there was the belief that a small glass of wine a d…

I'm specifically sympathetic to kids who are not ( in the US ) given coffee or tea or alcohol and still get scolded about having anything but water. I've been there, it gets dull.

Well, even small kids here are allowed by their parents to drink caffe latte, which is milk with varying amounts of coffee. Then of course, some juices are OK although it's so easy to drink much more than the rda (and I'm quite sure I drank a shitton more of the recommend dose of juice, the few times I drank juice)

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Post by analog31 »

sorcerer-mar wrote: post #43
analog31 wrote: post #13

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I'm only quibbling here, and I agree with you, but an amusing factoid is that the ancient Romans used lead acetate as an artificial sweetener. It was made by boiling wine in a lead pot. When I lived in Texas, it was practically universal to open up a cup of iced tea, grab several packs of Sweet'n'Low, rip the tops off all at once, and pour them in.

With Sweet’n’Low?! Isn’t that considered blasphemy in sweet tea country?

That's a good question, and I'm culturally ignorant. When I lived in Texas, my impression was that "tea" was unsweetened iced tea, to which people added their own sweetener. Then when I visited Virginia, "tea" was heavily sweetened.

My friend told me that drinking coffee with a meal instantly identified me as a Midwesterner.

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officeplant wrote: post #67
hinkley wrote: post #27

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I think they’re using erythritol because it’s not toxic to pets which some of the other sugar alcohols are, and disastrously so. But all of the sugar alcohols can mess with your gut biome. Mine went nasty during the previous recession when I was chewing gum for TMJ related problems.

- I was chewing gum for TMJ related problems. Why the hell would you do that? My life time of chewing gum constantly until my 20s is what I assume to be the source of my TMJ.

Grinding my teeth at night, because I wanted to murder a third of my coworkers and I didn't feel I could find another job.

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Post by hinkley »

latchkey wrote: post #31
hinkley wrote: post #27

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I think they’re using erythritol because it’s not toxic to pets which some of the other sugar alcohols are, and disastrously so. But all of the sugar alcohols can mess with your gut biome. Mine went nasty during the previous recession when I was chewing gum for TMJ related problems.

I'm confused, google says monk fruit is ok for pets. Regardless, who's feeding this stuff to their pets? I love fishermans friend, but I think the sorbitol is guaranteed excessive flatulence.

When you live with a pet, who eats what food is a bit of a democratic affair, not an autocracy.

Do you want to get up from the middle of a movie to go to the bathroom and come back and find that you're not going to find out who killed the leading lady tonight because you're going to spend all night in an animal emergency room getting your dog or cat's stomach pumped?

Anything on a table or in your purse or your jacket pocket is fair game.

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Post by omnimus »

ender341341 wrote: post #28
jader201 wrote: post #20

These days, about the only liquid you can consume without controversy is water. Some say coffee is good for you (in moderation), some say it's bad for you. Some say certain alcoholic drinks are good for you (in moderation), some say no amount of alcohol is good. Some say some artificial sweeteners have benefits, some say all of them are toxic. Some think fruit juices are good for you, because fruit. Some (most) say t…

> Some say certain alcoholic drinks are good for you (in moderation), some say no amount of alcohol is good. From what I've read it seems likely that any amount of alcohol is bad for you, most of the studies that show moderate as good for you make the mistake of only have 'sober', 'moderate' & 'heavy' drinking, but if you look at the 'sober' folks there's a heavy mix of "I don't drink because I'm in recovery" or othe…

Alcohol is bad for your body but can be quite good for your mood. Just like sugar or othe high calory food.

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Post by jgalt212 »

jader201 wrote: post #20

These days, about the only liquid you can consume without controversy is water. Some say coffee is good for you (in moderation), some say it's bad for you. Some say certain alcoholic drinks are good for you (in moderation), some say no amount of alcohol is good. Some say some artificial sweeteners have benefits, some say all of them are toxic. Some think fruit juices are good for you, because fruit. Some (most) say t…

Probably the flouride, but RFK will sort that out.

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Post by michaelteter »

jgalt212 wrote: post #88
jader201 wrote: post #20

These days, about the only liquid you can consume without controversy is water. Some say coffee is good for you (in moderation), some say it's bad for you. Some say certain alcoholic drinks are good for you (in moderation), some say no amount of alcohol is good. Some say some artificial sweeteners have benefits, some say all of them are toxic. Some think fruit juices are good for you, because fruit. Some (most) say t…

Probably the flouride, but RFK will sort that out.

Unfortunately on HN these days, it's impossible to tell if this is sarcasm or not.

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Post by smt88 »

masfuerte wrote: post #80
smt88 wrote: post #62

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You can't put the other things you've listed on a wound in a hospital without some, uh... unpleasantness.

I don't fancy kerosene much. Sugar works very well [1]. Salt and ethanol are very effective in mouthwashes, though ethanol is carcinogenic. I stick to the salt. [1]: https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20180328-how-sugar-could-...

Salt is painful and I believe the risk with sugar is that it can be metabolized by bacteria or fungi, so the remnants of it can make conditions better for microbes (although I haven't googled to confirm this)
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