Americans do not understand how much press there is outside the US about tourists from Ireland / Germany / Canada getting locked up in ICE jails for weeks on end. It's one thing to refuse entry to someone who doesn't have the right documents. The fear goes to a completely different level once people see tourists getting locked up. As someone who lived in the US for 22 years legally and most of my social and business…
Foreign visits into the U.S. fell off a cliff in March
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Re: Foreign visits into the U.S. fell off a cliff in March
#332Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Exactly this. If someone from "high tier" countries like Canada and Germany can get locked up in ICE jails for several weeks imagine someone like me from a peripheral European country. Even worse, my youngest brother that has a more "tanned" appearance. tattoos, and a beard. Out of curiosity, what do you think it's like to travel to Europe as someone who is dark-skinned, has a beard, and does not have a European pa…
I constantly travel to EU for work. I see all kinds of people from any part of the world, and they pass through fine. When I traveled last time, I have witnessed an European denied entry for a reason I don't know, and a white male without any beard has been escorted into the immigration office. Said office had a giant window. The officers were just chatting with him while checking his documents, and also drinking som…
For some EU perspective: last summer we traveled with a group of social dancers from Berlin to Pula in Croatia, going to an event at the coast.
Croatia joined Schengen in January 2023.
We had one couple in the group that where not "white". She is German but her parents are Vietnamese and he is from Syria. They're married, they have German citizenship.
They were the only ones from our group of ~20 people who got singled out and had their papers and luggage (!) checked. She looks Asian, he looks Middle-Eastern (oh, and he has a beard!).
That said, they just took 10mins longer to make it through the arrivals hall. They didn't get incarcerated.
However, the year before they were traveling to a dance event in Belgrade. That was was before they got married so he didn't have a German passport yet. He only had a Syrian passport and a residence permit for Germany/Schengen.
Serbia is not part of the EU. Usually such a mistake means they just send you back on the next flight. Happened to two friends of mine, both "white US citizens, who didn't also know this and were traveling to Belgrade from Switzerland two years before.
My Syrian friend however spent three days in a jail in cell with a dozen criminals before they let him fly back to Germany. Mind you, the event they went to was four days and he had a return ticket that could have been easily changed to the arrival day.
Racial profiling is everywhere. Also in the EU. And some EU countries are more "famous" for it, the Balkans e.g.
Re: Foreign visits into the U.S. fell off a cliff in March
#333Americans do not understand how much press there is outside the US about tourists from Ireland / Germany / Canada getting locked up in ICE jails for weeks on end. It's one thing to refuse entry to someone who doesn't have the right documents. The fear goes to a completely different level once people see tourists getting locked up. As someone who lived in the US for 22 years legally and most of my social and business…
Re: Foreign visits into the U.S. fell off a cliff in March
#334Re: Foreign visits into the U.S. fell off a cliff in March
#335Americans do not understand how much press there is outside the US about tourists from Ireland / Germany / Canada getting locked up in ICE jails for weeks on end. It's one thing to refuse entry to someone who doesn't have the right documents. The fear goes to a completely different level once people see tourists getting locked up. As someone who lived in the US for 22 years legally and most of my social and business…
^ this. Once (oh, actually twice!) while travelling, I have had entirely benign trouble with paperwork (things like not filling a form correctly on the first attempt). Explaining the circumstances to someone who has to figure out if you're scatter-brained, unlucky, or an actual criminal, isn't particularly fun, but it's been entirely professional and civilised. We resolved it all in about half an hour. Didn't even mi…
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#336Earlier quoted context omitted.
Plus it's false that the rest of the world doesn't get the Fox spin along with the CNN spin. We get both.
Really? In my country, CNN is Coca cola and Fox is Dr. Pepper
For me, Coke tastes like acid, and Dr. Pepper is sweet and spicy.
But... uh... that doesn't translate well when applied to sources for "news".
Re: Foreign visits into the U.S. fell off a cliff in March
#337Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why don't you just ask what they are referring to instead of bringing out the snarky gotcha comments...
You think I'M snarky?! This isn't Reddit. A good faith interpretation of what they said wouldn't include projecting fear-mongering politics into their meaning.
"do you think the US is a monoculture?" implying that the commenter does think that, and that that thought is ignorant and absurd. Instead of asking what they are referring to so you can discuss the point they're making.
What fear mongering politics? The commenter is obviously talking about the reported cases of people being detained, deported, and harassed for their political views.
Re: Foreign visits into the U.S. fell off a cliff in March
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I think the news feeds within the US may be approximately equal in their delivery of "this is good change" versus "this is catastrophic change", whilst internationally it's almost entirely "this is catastrophic change" with minor pockets of intolerance apologia. I'd be interested in alternate viewpoints since I may be in a bleeding-heart, empathetic, progressive, consequence-considering news bubble. My reasoning is t…
Something i like doing from time to time is picking a foreign movie, ie Russian (you know, the standard bad guys) and just pretend it’s a US based movie. Or the reverse, watch something based in the US and turn on Russian dubbing. It’s funny how quickly you realize the bad guys are both sides. I say this because often when trying to interpret media i feel the language and accent of the presenter influences me. “They…
(I retrospectively put the high point of recent West-China relations some time around the release of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Battle_at_Lake_Changjin , which is an obvious propaganda war film with Americans on the "enemy" side .. that was shown in Western cinemas. Certainly in the UK, I think in America as well. Very odd. BTW, MOSFILM is on Youtube if you need some classic Russian cinema)
Re: Foreign visits into the U.S. fell off a cliff in March
#339Same here. Canceled my plans for US visits for the near future. Absolutely zero desire to have part in that. Will spend my money elsewhere.
I’m American and this administration has set this country back decades. The only way people will rise up here is if their pockets are hurting.
401K accounts are down bad.
Imports of American goods down significantly.
Industries that relied on global trade partners (agriculture?) are getting decimated.
Folks have effectively self owned themselves.
Re: Foreign visits into the U.S. fell off a cliff in March
#340Earlier quoted context omitted.
That article links to this article.
Yes, if you click through to the substack, that article links to this axios article. But as far as Hacker News submissions, the other one was submitted earlier, and has over 300 comments. Arguably @dang or @tomhow might ultimately combine them, but for anyone curious you'll find better (or at least a lot more) discussion on the other article.