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Foreign visits into the U.S. fell off a cliff in March

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Re: Foreign visits into the U.S. fell off a cliff in March

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Post by jmull »

elric wrote: post #192
aiisahik wrote: post #13

Americans do not understand how much press there is outside the US about tourists from Ireland / Germany / Canada getting locked up in ICE jails for weeks on end. It's one thing to refuse entry to someone who doesn't have the right documents. The fear goes to a completely different level once people see tourists getting locked up. As someone who lived in the US for 22 years legally and most of my social and business…

Anecdotally: a couple of years after 9/11, when I was a student, some of my friends who travelled to the US mysteriously disappeared for a few days. Turns out someone in the friend group had done some hackery type things (I won't go into more details to preserve their anonymity), and they were basically "detained" and interrogated for several days without being able to notify anyone, including any potential lawyers (…

I don't know if you intend this, but you're implying nothing's changed but our awareness. However, there has been a significant change.

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Post by dfxm12 »

n4r9 wrote: post #151
mlinhares wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Spring break.

That's good to know, but presumably that happens every year so doesn't explain the year-on-year increase in March shown in the graph.

It happens every year, but not necessarily on the same dates, both year to year and family to family, depending largely on where you or your kids go to school. Most people I know had spring break Mar 17-23 this year. It was a few weeks earlier last year.

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Post by avalys »

I see all these articles about Canadian and European hate for the US, and anti-US sentiment in general. They all sadden me.

The US is made up of 350 million people. Only one of them is Donald Trump. Most of the country didn’t vote for him. We still value our friends and allies, even if the stooge Putin got elected does not.

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Post by neogodless »

paulddraper wrote: post #155
pixl97 wrote: post #2

Act crazy and people stop coming to your house.

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This is more like hosting an AirBnB but then sometimes you lock your guests up in the basement and torture them. So you get some bad reviews on AirBnB. If that's what you're going for.

Re: Foreign visits into the U.S. fell off a cliff in March

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Post by GardenLetter27 »

BikiniPrince wrote: post #132

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Those affected weren't from the third world though.

I have travelled for conferences in the US several times, now I'd be worried they'd argue you need a B-1 visa instead of ESTA waiver if you visit the company office after the conference, etc.

And detain you for weeks when you don't have it.

The USA is supposed to be the land of the free.

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Post by dchuk »

Reubachi wrote: post #258
rbultje wrote: post #242

Maybe related - I noticed that hotel room prices in New York dropped, they used to start at $350/night just a few months ago, now you can get them for $150/night.

it's the "Dead" season right no, late march early april. Great time to go to disney, nyc, etc.

Terrible time to go to Disney, late March early April is spring break for basically the whole country

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Post by stephen_g »

BikiniPrince wrote: post #113
BLKNSLVR wrote: post #74

Can DOGE therefore justify cutting a whole lot of jobs that process tourists? Or has that already been privatised?

TSA and all of its security theater is going to get the boot. Airports can manage their own security. That won’t change international customs which is still managed federally.

That’s basically the system we have in Australia - customs and immigration handled by officers of the Federal Government, and generally Federal police patrol airports (one of the only places you will normally see them if you don’t live in Canberra), and then the airports have private security companies do the security screening.

There are still Federal standards they have to comply with but it’s more reasonable than the US (we never had to take off our shoes and liquids of any size have been allowed again for years as long as you’re only going to the domestic part of the airport, they’re separated here)

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Post by Workaccount2 »

The US, Trump, is trying to "refinance" global trade with the united states. The short of it is that the Trump wants countries to pay more to be part of the west's "protection blanket". Most of the "paying more" will come in the form of a weaker dollar, devaluing foreign held treasuries and making US industry more competitive with local manufacturers.

Trump seems to be going nuclear with this plan, and because he obviously is not particularly smart or diplomatic, I don't think he grasps the immense second and third order effects this will have on perceptions of America. American goods might get cheaper, but maybe no one will want to buy them. No one will want to travel to the US. No one will want to live in the US.

So dumb.

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Post by detourdog »

aiisahik wrote: post #13

Americans do not understand how much press there is outside the US about tourists from Ireland / Germany / Canada getting locked up in ICE jails for weeks on end. It's one thing to refuse entry to someone who doesn't have the right documents. The fear goes to a completely different level once people see tourists getting locked up. As someone who lived in the US for 22 years legally and most of my social and business…

I think foreigners might not realize how freaked out some Americans are.

They appear to be testing the boundaries by going after easy targets.

Re: Foreign visits into the U.S. fell off a cliff in March

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Post by ThatMedicIsASpy »

johanvts wrote: post #177
Brendinooo wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I get that narrative. I guess my point is that, if border crossings at the US-Mexico border are down 90%+ compared to last year, and if some migrants/asylum seekers fly in instead of crossing a border on foot/in a car, then how much of this decrease is would-be migrants deciding it's not a good time, and how much of this is would-be tourists being scared of detention? Is that even possible to know?

I guess immigrants where always worried about being detained, but german tourists previously where not.

I was.. with my friend visiting family. Not knowing where they live - because the person picking them up is waiting at the airport (8h detained, 10y ago).

Another one being accused of selling drugs in LA (never been there, detained for 2 days, banned and put on a flight back home, 5y ago)

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