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Foreign visits into the U.S. fell off a cliff in March
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Re: Foreign visits into the U.S. fell off a cliff in March
#252It also happens to be ridiculously overpriced for what you get as a tourist, and in tough economic times satisfying one's curiosity about the US may not be as high on the list. But yes, there is also the political climate.
Do you think the US is a monoculture?
Law enforcement is a monoculture.
Re: Foreign visits into the U.S. fell off a cliff in March
#253Earlier quoted context omitted.
Many americans loved what Hitler was doing to Make Germany Great Again. Charles Lindbergh for example blamed the Jews for WW2 > National polls showed that when England and France declared war on Germany, in 1939, less than 10 percent of our [USA] population favored a similar course for America. ... The three most important groups who have been pressing this country toward war are the British, the Jewish and the Roose…
We don’t like to talk about it but there were literal, actual Nazi rallies in support of Germany. And not fringe, either — notably one at Madison Square Garden.
A documentary from PBS's American Experience: https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/films/nazi-town-...
Re: Foreign visits into the U.S. fell off a cliff in March
#254After several tourists were detained for weeks in terrible conditions, it’s little wonder why
Detention is already bad enough, but then reading something like this: https://bleedingcool.com/comics/british-comic-creator-r-e-bu... "While every item in her bag was swabbed and dismantled, she was subjected to a full body search. "I was in this very loud, weird, industrial space with pipes and conveyor belts and lights and sirens, being told to open my legs. I was silently crying, watching all my stuff being torn…
That story starts with her being refused entry to Canada. So, there's more than just "US border guards mean" going on here.
Then it turns out that she was using Workaway, which is like AirBnB or Uber but for foreign labor on tourist visas. They don't tell you that you need a work visa to work in another country [1], but you almost certainly do anywhere you go, not just the US. The woman in the story was working in exchange for accommodation, which is legal for citizens but not for aliens: work permits and visas exist to deter illegal immigration. She didn't have intent to immigrate illegally, but the scheme under which she entered the country was illegal, and she confessed to it in her statement to the border guards.
The real bad actor in this story was Workaway, and I'm surprised they haven't been shut down yet. They offer an alien labor arrangement that is almost certain to get you detained if caught with the wrong visa, don't give you advice on visas, and aren't there to help if something does go wrong at the border. I doubt there are many countries who welcome their alien labor arrangements, either.
[1] "Workaway is a listing site that enables contact between members, we are unfortunately unable to arrange or advise on visas. There are so many countries with different regulations or laws for different types of volunteering activity, so we would suggest directly getting in touch with the relevant embassy of your destination. It is the responsibility of the host and/or volunteer to make sure they are within the law." https://www.workaway.info/en/stories/workaway-for-newbies-co...
Re: Foreign visits into the U.S. fell off a cliff in March
#255If non-US citizens can be deported to El Salvador without due process for having a tattoo that an ICE officer deems to be "gang-related", you're immediately going to alienate most of the World's population from wanting to visit for any purpose. The lack of due process and the threat of extradition on a whim is one that feels less likely to happen to me as a caucasian with US citizens as family, but the impact of it w…
> believes SCOTUS will never condemn or find illegal a thing he has done
Well, so far, that belief seems to be correct.
Re: Foreign visits into the U.S. fell off a cliff in March
#256Same here. Canceled my plans for US visits for the near future. Absolutely zero desire to have part in that. Will spend my money elsewhere.
As an American, thank you.
Re: Foreign visits into the U.S. fell off a cliff in March
#257See also: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43610246 Fewer Foreign Passengers Are Flying to the US (jasher.substack.com) 212+ points, 128+ comments (posted slightly earlier)
That article links to this article.
Yes, if you click through to the substack, that article links to this axios article. But as far as Hacker News submissions, the other one was submitted earlier, and has over 300 comments.
Arguably @dang or @tomhow might ultimately combine them, but for anyone curious you'll find better (or at least a lot more) discussion on the other article.
Re: Foreign visits into the U.S. fell off a cliff in March
#258Maybe related - I noticed that hotel room prices in New York dropped, they used to start at $350/night just a few months ago, now you can get them for $150/night.
it's the "Dead" season right no, late march early april.
Great time to go to disney, nyc, etc.
Re: Foreign visits into the U.S. fell off a cliff in March
#259Can DOGE therefore justify cutting a whole lot of jobs that process tourists? Or has that already been privatised?
TSA and all of its security theater is going to get the boot. Airports can manage their own security. That won’t change international customs which is still managed federally.
Airports can manage their own security
Um.
I'm thinking this comment won't age well.
Re: Foreign visits into the U.S. fell off a cliff in March
#260Americans do not understand how much press there is outside the US about tourists from Ireland / Germany / Canada getting locked up in ICE jails for weeks on end. It's one thing to refuse entry to someone who doesn't have the right documents. The fear goes to a completely different level once people see tourists getting locked up. As someone who lived in the US for 22 years legally and most of my social and business…
Anecdotally: a couple of years after 9/11, when I was a student, some of my friends who travelled to the US mysteriously disappeared for a few days. Turns out someone in the friend group had done some hackery type things (I won't go into more details to preserve their anonymity), and they were basically "detained" and interrogated for several days without being able to notify anyone, including any potential lawyers (…
"Some of my friends, who are criminals, were questioned by border police" is not what we are discussing.