I'm waiting to see the effects of the brain drain
Know of any good programs that countries are offering to accelerate this?
I’ve been getting ads from NZ and the UK.
Foreign visits into the U.S. fell off a cliff in March
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Re: Foreign visits into the U.S. fell off a cliff in March
#82Earlier quoted context omitted.
>I think the news feeds within the US may be approximately equal in their delivery of "this is good change" versus "this is catastrophic change", whilst internationally it's almost entirely "this is catastrophic change" with minor pockets of intolerance apologia. Exactly. Americans generally don't understand the degree to which the rest of the world gets the CNN 5min recap of what's going on in the US, and it's very…
When you are in stuck in a border control jail for 2 weeks it does not particularly matter who does or does not think you should be there.
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Re: Foreign visits into the U.S. fell off a cliff in March
#83After several tourists were detained for weeks in terrible conditions, it’s little wonder why
ICE statements about detention say it's supposed to be non-punitive, but clearly it's punishing for the detained. Lots of people get detained for what are actually civil violations or even just suspicion of civil violations, not crimes. We really need a new system. People shouldn't be locked up for more than 24 hours until they've seen a judge, and I imagine in many cases, lockup could be avoided entirely with a cour…
Non-punitive my ass. The German tourist was put for eight days in solitary confinement: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/03/ice-german-t...
Re: Foreign visits into the U.S. fell off a cliff in March
#84I have friends who were asked about their social media accounts at the US border. I.e. like you have in Russia, where they can check your Telegram for the subscription to opposition channels.
It's not surprising that people are reluctant to travel to the US now.
Re: Foreign visits into the U.S. fell off a cliff in March
#85Remember that many (most?) people coming from Canada go thru US immigration there, so these numbers (from US airports) likely represent non-Canadian visitors. With so many fewer people coming the ratio of fliers to immigration people is going to be lower, chance of getting hassled is going to be that much higher. Personally I'm unlikely to return while these stories of bad things happening to people at the border con…
That is one thing a lot of people miss, with even less people around, odds you will be snatched are much higher, as they likely have to "meet quotas".
Re: Foreign visits into the U.S. fell off a cliff in March
#86Americans do not understand how much press there is outside the US about tourists from Ireland / Germany / Canada getting locked up in ICE jails for weeks on end. It's one thing to refuse entry to someone who doesn't have the right documents. The fear goes to a completely different level once people see tourists getting locked up. As someone who lived in the US for 22 years legally and most of my social and business…
Exactly this. If someone from "high tier" countries like Canada and Germany can get locked up in ICE jails for several weeks imagine someone like me from a peripheral European country. Even worse, my youngest brother that has a more "tanned" appearance. tattoos, and a beard. I won't be visiting the US for the foreseeable future (used to go several times per year for work), just not worth the risk.
> Exactly this. If someone from "high tier" countries like Canada and Germany can get locked up in ICE jails for several weeks imagine someone like me from a peripheral European country. Even worse, my youngest brother that has a more "tanned" appearance. tattoos, and a beard.
Out of curiosity, what do you think it's like to travel to Europe as someone who is dark-skinned, has a beard, and does not have a European passport?
Re: Foreign visits into the U.S. fell off a cliff in March
#87Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think the news feeds within the US may be approximately equal in their delivery of "this is good change" versus "this is catastrophic change", whilst internationally it's almost entirely "this is catastrophic change" with minor pockets of intolerance apologia. I'd be interested in alternate viewpoints since I may be in a bleeding-heart, empathetic, progressive, consequence-considering news bubble. My reasoning is t…
>I think the news feeds within the US may be approximately equal in their delivery of "this is good change" versus "this is catastrophic change", whilst internationally it's almost entirely "this is catastrophic change" with minor pockets of intolerance apologia. Exactly. Americans generally don't understand the degree to which the rest of the world gets the CNN 5min recap of what's going on in the US, and it's very…
For everyone outside the US, the fact that half the country doesn't think ICE should be locking up tourists without good reason is irrelevant since that half isn't barricading detention centers and tearing prison gates open with their cars.
... not that these things would make it safer to travel to the US. In the short run.
The status quo of power is that it is less safe to be a foreigner in the US than it has been in a long time. Possibly at any point in time the US wasn't actively at war with another nation.
Re: Foreign visits into the U.S. fell off a cliff in March
#88Can anyone explain why the number of US passengers increased in a proportion at the same time? Perhaps airlines dropped prices due to the lower demand, causing US citizens to snap up tickets?
Spring break.
Re: Foreign visits into the U.S. fell off a cliff in March
#89Why would a foreigner visit the US when you may be detained and treated like an animal at any time for the most trivial of reasons? Furthermore, why would you visit a country that's actively undermining others around the world? Why would you provide your financial support to that? It's the same reason Tesla sales have fallen off a cliff. You can only mistreat people so much before they push back.
Re: Foreign visits into the U.S. fell off a cliff in March
#90> I went to the CBP’s Average Wait Time website and found a rich dataset Its days are counted now that they know about its existence.
s/counted/numbered/ (probably for no logical reason, that's just the phrase)