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Foreign visits into the U.S. fell off a cliff in March

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Re: Foreign visits into the U.S. fell off a cliff in March

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I think the news feeds within the US may be approximately equal in their delivery of "this is good change" versus "this is catastrophic change", whilst internationally it's almost entirely "this is catastrophic change" with minor pockets of intolerance apologia. I'd be interested in alternate viewpoints since I may be in a bleeding-heart, empathetic, progressive, consequence-considering news bubble. My reasoning is t…

>I think the news feeds within the US may be approximately equal in their delivery of "this is good change" versus "this is catastrophic change", whilst internationally it's almost entirely "this is catastrophic change" with minor pockets of intolerance apologia. Exactly. Americans generally don't understand the degree to which the rest of the world gets the CNN 5min recap of what's going on in the US, and it's very…

What are you trying to argue though? I am a bit at a loss to follow. Be so kind and explain.

You want foreign readers to read news about how half of the US wants you, the foreign tourist, be locked up in a jail cell? The news is already out there. Everyone assumes it's so wanted, because well... it does actually happen

Re: Foreign visits into the U.S. fell off a cliff in March

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APIS I-92 data is a way better source. Includes all the airports, not just top 8: https://www.trade.gov/us-international-air-travel-statistics... The latest month available is still February though.

What makes a stat that’s missing the relevant time period a “better source”?

It might be a better source in a month or two, but not now.

Re: Foreign visits into the U.S. fell off a cliff in March

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

>I think the news feeds within the US may be approximately equal in their delivery of "this is good change" versus "this is catastrophic change", whilst internationally it's almost entirely "this is catastrophic change" with minor pockets of intolerance apologia. Exactly. Americans generally don't understand the degree to which the rest of the world gets the CNN 5min recap of what's going on in the US, and it's very…

There’s no reason to lock tourists up. If you don’t want them put them on the first flight back. Locking people up is expensive and if they’re willing to leave anyway, totally pointless. You would think that a country with a whole department devoted to government efficiency could work that out.

10 nights in an ICE jail is very lucrative to the company that runs that jail. Can be funded by the taxes the poorest in America pay.

Re: Foreign visits into the U.S. fell off a cliff in March

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Countries all over the world are issuing US travel warnings. If there's an error or mistake on your visa you risk being detained by ICE for weeks on end or even end up in the Gulag in El Salvador. For European visitors, they can see the fascism miles away. A lot of Europe was occupied by Hitler while the US wasn't. The extraordinary claim that Musk's salute wasn't a Nazi salute is mind boggling. Even when people have…

I haven't actually seen any travel warnings published by other nation states (yet). Do you have a source?

"So far, Portugal, Norway, Denmark, Finland, Ireland, Germany, France and the U.K. have all issued new travel guidance for those wishing to travel to the U.S."

https://www.newsweek.com/portugal-issues-travel-warning-us-2...

Re: Foreign visits into the U.S. fell off a cliff in March

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Act crazy and people stop coming to your house.

For a lot of people a certain level of crazy was the thing that made the US interesting. I make an effort to avoid and me mindful/critical or news/culture war stuff but at the same time. I’ve got this instinctive vibe that now is not the best time to be visiting the US.

Crazy can be interesting. But risk of crazily being arrested and being put in a crazy American jail ... well, makes more people hesitant.

And then add all the other rethoric and actions, which don't make the contemporary U.S. the place it was once idealized to be.

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