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Foreign visits into the U.S. fell off a cliff in March

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Re: Foreign visits into the U.S. fell off a cliff in March

#13
Americans do not understand how much press there is outside the US about tourists from Ireland / Germany / Canada getting locked up in ICE jails for weeks on end.

It's one thing to refuse entry to someone who doesn't have the right documents. The fear goes to a completely different level once people see tourists getting locked up.

As someone who lived in the US for 22 years legally and most of my social and business network there, I an not taking the risk of getting locked up in ICE jail any time soon, no matter how unlikely it is.

Re: Foreign visits into the U.S. fell off a cliff in March

#14

So, less greenhouse gases?

People might choose to fly somewhere else instead though, so it doesn't necessarily reduce the overall amount of carbon emissions from air travel. Especially if you see Europeans deciding to go somewhere else in the Americas instead, which I've heard some of my friends considering. Although if Europeans choose to travel within Europe instead then yes we'd see a reduction as the distances are rather shorter (and with any luck some of them would go by rail)

Re: Foreign visits into the U.S. fell off a cliff in March

#16
post #2

Act crazy and people stop coming to your house.

For a lot of people a certain level of crazy was the thing that made the US interesting.

I make an effort to avoid and me mindful/critical or news/culture war stuff but at the same time.

I’ve got this instinctive vibe that now is not the best time to be visiting the US.

Re: Foreign visits into the U.S. fell off a cliff in March

#18
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After several tourists were detained for weeks in terrible conditions, it’s little wonder why

ICE statements about detention say it's supposed to be non-punitive, but clearly it's punishing for the detained. Lots of people get detained for what are actually civil violations or even just suspicion of civil violations, not crimes. We really need a new system. People shouldn't be locked up for more than 24 hours until they've seen a judge, and I imagine in many cases, lockup could be avoided entirely with a court summons (which if violated would justify arrest).

Re: Foreign visits into the U.S. fell off a cliff in March

#20
Remember that many (most?) people coming from Canada go thru US immigration there, so these numbers (from US airports) likely represent non-Canadian visitors.

With so many fewer people coming the ratio of fliers to immigration people is going to be lower, chance of getting hassled is going to be that much higher.

Personally I'm unlikely to return while these stories of bad things happening to people at the border continue

(this isn't a new thing, in particular because the US has no exit processing infrastructure - people get tagged as overstaying even though they've left, get popped into detention when they return - always keep your boarding passes when you leave).

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