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Instacart (YC S12) aims to be the Amazon Prime of grocery delivery

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Re: Instacart (YC S12) aims to be the Amazon Prime of grocery delivery

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I can't help but worry that services like Instacart, TaskRabbit and Exec may perpetuate the problem of "underemployment" in the United States.

Let's face it, you can't pay delivery people as good as, say, Costco does it's hourly employees and only charge $4 or $10 for delivery. It's even worse if these services are just 1099ing these people without any benefits, gas money, etc. (I have no idea if this is the case).

Maybe these services use student workers. Maybe I'm way off. But I do know that I'm as pro-capitalism as anyone but felt a little dirty after paying someone on TaskRabbit $15 to walk around SF for 2 hours and get me some restaurant information.

Re: Instacart (YC S12) aims to be the Amazon Prime of grocery delivery

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Personally, I wish Amazon had stuck with books. IMO, their diversification has made their site organization suffer -- especially when they allowed 3rd-party sellers to create product listings (which led to maddening duplicates). I pray that Newegg's diversification from computer hardware won't have the same adverse effect, but it's probably a law of retail that it will.

I completely disagree. I think Amazon.come is absolutely amazing, and I do the vast majority of my shopping through it. Bezos's intention was to offer everything under the sun when he started the company, hence the name Amazon, because of it's diversity in terms of number of species that exists there. I compare my experience with Newegg, and although I've bought some stuff from Newegg, I will generally go with Amazon…

Maybe that was his intention, but it's hard to deny that the main focus of Amazon was (and may continue to be) books. I think it just boils down to whether or not you believe in the aforementioned idea that it's only possible to do one thing really well.

Re: Instacart (YC S12) aims to be the Amazon Prime of grocery delivery

#43
I hate to be overly negative against this startup, but I have a couple of issues with this service, that haven't been addressed since Webvan in 2000:

1) The target audience is definitely those people who are too busy to get their own groceries. If they are too busy to get their own groceries, aren't they too busy to cook a meal? I would think that take-out or going out to eat would be their #1 competitor in this area. When both my wife and I were working full-time, at the end of the day we were so exhausted that the last thing we wanted to think about was what we were going to eat, and then actually cooking it. We ate out probably 5 days out of the week. Ordering take-out will be quicker, and less of a hassle.

2) If the delivery person selects items such as meat, eggs, milk, etc that are expired or very close to expiry, it will likely cause a complete lack of confidence in the service. It will only take 1 bad experience buying meat, or a couple of busted eggs in a dozen, and they could potentially lose a customer forever. I'm not sure what their return policy is, but if they have one, it will likely be pretty costly for the company. There also could be incentive for people to return their close-to-expired food to Instacart, claiming that the delivery person selected it. It may seem petty, but for example very high chargebacks rates are one of the biggest challenges that Square faces right now.

3) Free delivery is interesting, but the 3hr delivery window I think will turn out to be pretty inconvenient for customers. It means that they need to deliver their goods at home, because who wants to be stuck at work waiting for their groceries to be delivered? I'm not sure what the delivery times were during their beta testing, that would be interesting to know, but my best un-educated, armchair-analyst guess is that the highest amount of deliveries will be from 7 to 10pm, and on weekends. If Instacart takes off, it means a disproportionate about of work required between 7pm and 10pm, and a lot less at other times. This sounds like a lot of people sitting around waiting for deliveries.

4) Safeway has their own delivery service as well, with a 1hr time window. What exactly does this service provide that Safeway can't? Is it cheaper? Or just faster?

Re: Instacart (YC S12) aims to be the Amazon Prime of grocery delivery

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post #2

Amazon has had, what, five years to expand its Amazon Fresh grocery delivery service? The fact that they have chosen not to implies that they haven't managed to make it cost effective. I think this speaks volumes about the feasibility of grocery delivery.

According to CNET, it's not actually a grocery logistics outfit, but a delivery company. They're just delivering groceries ... from the local supermarket. A remote shopping and delivery service, limited currently to groceries. I foresee and expansion into restaurant delivery, too.

If it bombs, it won't be because they can't keep the lettuce fresh from the field to your door, it'll be because you just can't do Ultimate Delivery for $99/yr.

Re: Instacart (YC S12) aims to be the Amazon Prime of grocery delivery

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post #22

"Instacart simply takes customers' $10 or larger orders, sends a staff shopper to a local merchant to load up on fruits, vegetables, meats, and the like, and then delivers them." How are they going to scale this? Sounds like it would require a huge workforce in each of their markets. And what about the grocery chains' delivery services like Peapod?

If they wanted to scale, they would need to make deals with the grocery stores to pack the groceries, or have their own food depots so that the delivery people wouldn't have to waste to packing groceries.

Re: Instacart (YC S12) aims to be the Amazon Prime of grocery delivery

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post #2

Amazon has had, what, five years to expand its Amazon Fresh grocery delivery service? The fact that they have chosen not to implies that they haven't managed to make it cost effective. I think this speaks volumes about the feasibility of grocery delivery.

I used Amazon Fresh when I lived in Seattle & Redmond; and I think this appeals to a different impulse. The key with Instacart is it's (almost) instant, Amazon Fresh is not. The "hey I'm setting up for a bbq, and I need to a couple things from the grocery" is not possible with Amazon Fresh. Whether or not it's a big enough market... I guess they're going to find out!

I use Amazon Fresh as a "hey, I'm running low on eggs, soap, and paper towels. I don't care what kind I get, I just want more" type service. Works great for that.

Also beer. Carrying cases of beer home sucks. ;)

Re: Instacart (YC S12) aims to be the Amazon Prime of grocery delivery

#47
I would really like for online groceries to work, partly because I despise going to to the grocery store. I'd much rather have someone else find a place to park, locate all of their items, wait in line at checkout and haul the groceries out of the store. I'm even willing to sacrifice things in order for that to happen, like being able to inspect and pick my own meat and produce.

The only sticking point for me is price and selection. I want options when choosing products and I want the prices to be comparable to what I see in the store. I don't want prices that are twice as much as in the store PLUS delivery fees.

Hopefully Instacart Express tackles that problem. The only concern I had after reading the thread is that it sounds like they have an employee go to an actual grocery store to pick up the order and deliver it. That method of doing things sounds painful once the service really starts to grow, but perhaps they've got an alternative strategy for when that happens.

Good luck, Instacart!

Re: Instacart (YC S12) aims to be the Amazon Prime of grocery delivery

#48

I hate to be overly negative against this startup, but I have a couple of issues with this service, that haven't been addressed since Webvan in 2000: 1) The target audience is definitely those people who are too busy to get their own groceries. If they are too busy to get their own groceries, aren't they too busy to cook a meal? I would think that take-out or going out to eat would be their #1 competitor in this area…

Point #2 Sounds like it could be alleviated via offering users the ability to set account preferences: "If an item is running low on stock, I'll take something that is close to the expiry date."

Re: Instacart (YC S12) aims to be the Amazon Prime of grocery delivery

#50
post #24

$10 for one-hour delivery and $4 for three-hour delivery seems extraordinarily cheap, given the someone is actually going to a grocery store, buying this stuff, and delivering it to you. If those are the actual operations, it appears like it would be very difficult to turn a profit. However, it does seem like there are plenty of good ways to make the operations more efficient once demand is high enough while still re…

Those prices are comparable to services like Peapod which take orders the day before and plan out at least relatively efficient schedules. Especially if they're moving to a yearly flat rate subscription to get people to make more frequent orders, I don't see how this can work.

But I wish them the best of luck, it would be wonderful for them and their customers.

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