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Google announces Sec-Gemini v1 a new experimental cybersecurity model

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Re: Google announces Sec-Gemini v1 a new experimental cybersecurity model

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> The seriousness, lack of interest of being humorous or cool. I love this. When ChatGPT compliments me on my great question or tries to banter it causes me great despair.

I've noticed 4o uses a lot of emojis, and, in general, is very enthusiastic. I find it funny. If I want a more formal bot, I switch to one of the o3 family.

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Re: Google announces Sec-Gemini v1 a new experimental cybersecurity model

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There is generally something about the Gemini models which feels a bit different than Claude, ChatGPT or Mistral. I always have the feeling that I'm chatting with a model oriented towards engineering tasks. The seriousness, lack of interest of being humorous or cool. I don't know if this is because I interact with Gemini only through AI Studio, and it may have different system instructions (apart from those one can a…

I have been using the Obsidian web clipper to export chats from ChatGPT and Claude web versions to nicely-formatted md files. You can save md to Obsidian or download it as a standalone file. It doesn’t support Gemini yet though.

https://github.com/obsidianmd/obsidian-clipper

Re: Google announces Sec-Gemini v1 a new experimental cybersecurity model

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There is generally something about the Gemini models which feels a bit different than Claude, ChatGPT or Mistral. I always have the feeling that I'm chatting with a model oriented towards engineering tasks. The seriousness, lack of interest of being humorous or cool. I don't know if this is because I interact with Gemini only through AI Studio, and it may have different system instructions (apart from those one can a…

You put into words something I've been struggling to describe for a long time. Gemini gives short, succinct responses with whatever information you need and minimal anything else. ChatGPT, Claude both fill text with mannerisms, formatting, etc.

I didn't realize just how big the difference was until I tested it.

"How do I clear a directory of all executable files on Debian?"

Gemini 2.0 Flash: (responses manually formatted)

        find /path/to/directory -type f -executable -delete
    Replace /path/to/directory with the actual path.
ChatGPT: (full link [1])

    To clear (delete) all executable files from a directory on Debian (or any Linux system), you can use the find command. Here's a safe and effective way to do it:
    # [checkmark emoji] Command to delete all executable files in a directory (not recursively): [..]
    # [magnifying glass emoji] Want to preview before deleting? [..]
    # [caution sign emoji] Caution: [..]
[1] https://chatgpt.com/share/67f055c8-4cc0-8003-85a6-bc1c7eadcc...

Re: Google announces Sec-Gemini v1 a new experimental cybersecurity model

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The seriousness, lack of interest of being humorous or cool. I love this. When ChatGPT compliments me on my great question or tries to banter it causes me great despair.

I've noticed 4o uses a lot of emojis, and, in general, is very enthusiastic. I find it funny. If I want a more formal bot, I switch to one of the o3 family.

I use a very simple custom system prompt (not on my work machine at the moment, but essentially something along the lines of "for technical questions, please be concise and to the point, and when asked for code, omit explanations and emit just the code itself unless I ask for explanations"), and it does wonders.

Re: Google announces Sec-Gemini v1 a new experimental cybersecurity model

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There is generally something about the Gemini models which feels a bit different than Claude, ChatGPT or Mistral. I always have the feeling that I'm chatting with a model oriented towards engineering tasks. The seriousness, lack of interest of being humorous or cool. I don't know if this is because I interact with Gemini only through AI Studio, and it may have different system instructions (apart from those one can a…

It doesn't seem as popular, but I've found Grok to treat you the least like a child and provide good answers. Especially with more complicated tasks.

I think Grok is the best for asking about current events but I kind of hate how it always tries to turn everything into a conversation. But that's just my opinion! What do you think is the most annoying feature about Grok?

^ like that.

Re: Google announces Sec-Gemini v1 a new experimental cybersecurity model

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There is generally something about the Gemini models which feels a bit different than Claude, ChatGPT or Mistral. I always have the feeling that I'm chatting with a model oriented towards engineering tasks. The seriousness, lack of interest of being humorous or cool. I don't know if this is because I interact with Gemini only through AI Studio, and it may have different system instructions (apart from those one can a…

how is that related to the post?

Re: Google announces Sec-Gemini v1 a new experimental cybersecurity model

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post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've noticed 4o uses a lot of emojis, and, in general, is very enthusiastic. I find it funny. If I want a more formal bot, I switch to one of the o3 family.

I use a very simple custom system prompt (not on my work machine at the moment, but essentially something along the lines of "for technical questions, please be concise and to the point, and when asked for code, omit explanations and emit just the code itself unless I ask for explanations"), and it does wonders.

It’s interesting that my default prompt is exactly the opposite one: “do not write the code unless I ask for it specifically”. I like to use LLMs as a discussion partner, but writing code is trivial after a good discussion and I can do that myself

Re: Google announces Sec-Gemini v1 a new experimental cybersecurity model

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There is generally something about the Gemini models which feels a bit different than Claude, ChatGPT or Mistral. I always have the feeling that I'm chatting with a model oriented towards engineering tasks. The seriousness, lack of interest of being humorous or cool. I don't know if this is because I interact with Gemini only through AI Studio, and it may have different system instructions (apart from those one can a…

it's interesting that different models evoke such distinct personalities. i agree, sometimes the excessive enthusiasm can be distracting. a concise, focused response is often more valuable, especially for technical tasks. i find that a clear system prompt can really steer the model's behavior, like you mentioned.

Re: Google announces Sec-Gemini v1 a new experimental cybersecurity model

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There is generally something about the Gemini models which feels a bit different than Claude, ChatGPT or Mistral. I always have the feeling that I'm chatting with a model oriented towards engineering tasks. The seriousness, lack of interest of being humorous or cool. I don't know if this is because I interact with Gemini only through AI Studio, and it may have different system instructions (apart from those one can a…

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Re: Google announces Sec-Gemini v1 a new experimental cybersecurity model

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There is generally something about the Gemini models which feels a bit different than Claude, ChatGPT or Mistral. I always have the feeling that I'm chatting with a model oriented towards engineering tasks. The seriousness, lack of interest of being humorous or cool. I don't know if this is because I interact with Gemini only through AI Studio, and it may have different system instructions (apart from those one can a…

When you have to justify your spend to public shareholders it makes it much more difficult to spend tokens on “great quesion!” and vocal ticks and what not
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