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Google announces Sec-Gemini v1 a new experimental cybersecurity model

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Re: Google announces Sec-Gemini v1 a new experimental cybersecurity model

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Post by Y_Y »

qwertox wrote: post #10

There is generally something about the Gemini models which feels a bit different than Claude, ChatGPT or Mistral. I always have the feeling that I'm chatting with a model oriented towards engineering tasks. The seriousness, lack of interest of being humorous or cool. I don't know if this is because I interact with Gemini only through AI Studio, and it may have different system instructions (apart from those one can a…

> The seriousness, lack of interest of being humorous or cool.

I love this. When ChatGPT compliments me on my great question or tries to banter it causes me great despair.

Re: Google announces Sec-Gemini v1 a new experimental cybersecurity model

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Post by neodypsis »

Y_Y wrote: post #11
qwertox wrote: post #10

There is generally something about the Gemini models which feels a bit different than Claude, ChatGPT or Mistral. I always have the feeling that I'm chatting with a model oriented towards engineering tasks. The seriousness, lack of interest of being humorous or cool. I don't know if this is because I interact with Gemini only through AI Studio, and it may have different system instructions (apart from those one can a…

> The seriousness, lack of interest of being humorous or cool. I love this. When ChatGPT compliments me on my great question or tries to banter it causes me great despair.

I've noticed 4o uses a lot of emojis, and, in general, is very enthusiastic. I find it funny. If I want a more formal bot, I switch to one of the o3 family.

Re: Google announces Sec-Gemini v1 a new experimental cybersecurity model

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Post by qwertox »

Y_Y wrote: post #11
qwertox wrote: post #10

There is generally something about the Gemini models which feels a bit different than Claude, ChatGPT or Mistral. I always have the feeling that I'm chatting with a model oriented towards engineering tasks. The seriousness, lack of interest of being humorous or cool. I don't know if this is because I interact with Gemini only through AI Studio, and it may have different system instructions (apart from those one can a…

> The seriousness, lack of interest of being humorous or cool. I love this. When ChatGPT compliments me on my great question or tries to banter it causes me great despair.

So do I. But it's not like ChatGPT isn't flexible, the code it generates for small tasks is really good, and the site is faster than AI Studio.

For example, if I want to quickly create a Python script to list all VMs via libvirt and output their attached drives and filesystems, that's a task for ChatGPT.

But for the things where I don't want an AI to "suck up" to me and instead "stay professional", that's Gemini.

Re: Google announces Sec-Gemini v1 a new experimental cybersecurity model

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Post by HelenePhisher »

qwertox wrote: post #10

There is generally something about the Gemini models which feels a bit different than Claude, ChatGPT or Mistral. I always have the feeling that I'm chatting with a model oriented towards engineering tasks. The seriousness, lack of interest of being humorous or cool. I don't know if this is because I interact with Gemini only through AI Studio, and it may have different system instructions (apart from those one can a…

> And it's not even possible to save one chat to disk (well, neither do the others), I just wish it did.

Ask Claude to generate a .md of the conversation, it will do that with the option to download that or a PDF of it. A lovely, but well hidden feature!

Re: Google announces Sec-Gemini v1 a new experimental cybersecurity model

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Post by gavinray »

qwertox wrote: post #10

There is generally something about the Gemini models which feels a bit different than Claude, ChatGPT or Mistral. I always have the feeling that I'm chatting with a model oriented towards engineering tasks. The seriousness, lack of interest of being humorous or cool. I don't know if this is because I interact with Gemini only through AI Studio, and it may have different system instructions (apart from those one can a…

It doesn't seem as popular, but I've found Grok to treat you the least like a child and provide good answers. Especially with more complicated tasks.

Re: Google announces Sec-Gemini v1 a new experimental cybersecurity model

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Post by asadm »

qwertox wrote: post #10

There is generally something about the Gemini models which feels a bit different than Claude, ChatGPT or Mistral. I always have the feeling that I'm chatting with a model oriented towards engineering tasks. The seriousness, lack of interest of being humorous or cool. I don't know if this is because I interact with Gemini only through AI Studio, and it may have different system instructions (apart from those one can a…

2.5 has been amazing for programming. I just send it entire repo as context when I am lazy and then ask it for entire modified files back with the (medium sized) change. It almost always works! I wish to either start using cursor or some vscode extension to do this from ide itself.

Re: Google announces Sec-Gemini v1 a new experimental cybersecurity model

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Post by qwertox »

HelenePhisher wrote: post #14
qwertox wrote: post #10

There is generally something about the Gemini models which feels a bit different than Claude, ChatGPT or Mistral. I always have the feeling that I'm chatting with a model oriented towards engineering tasks. The seriousness, lack of interest of being humorous or cool. I don't know if this is because I interact with Gemini only through AI Studio, and it may have different system instructions (apart from those one can a…

> And it's not even possible to save one chat to disk (well, neither do the others), I just wish it did. Ask Claude to generate a .md of the conversation, it will do that with the option to download that or a PDF of it. A lovely, but well hidden feature!

Thanks for the tip. I tested it and this also works with Gemini and ChatGPT.

The only drawback I see is that it requires enough free space in the context window to duplicate the visual part of the chat.

Re: Google announces Sec-Gemini v1 a new experimental cybersecurity model

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Post by jonplackett »

neodypsis wrote: post #12
Y_Y wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The seriousness, lack of interest of being humorous or cool. I love this. When ChatGPT compliments me on my great question or tries to banter it causes me great despair.

I've noticed 4o uses a lot of emojis, and, in general, is very enthusiastic. I find it funny. If I want a more formal bot, I switch to one of the o3 family.

Every now and then 4o seems to get a bit drunk and use tonnes of emojis or start swearing when I haven’t sworn myself in the chat.

The other day I asked a fairly innocuous question and it LOLed and said it’d give me the ‘no Bullshit answer’

Re: Google announces Sec-Gemini v1 a new experimental cybersecurity model

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Post by kfajdsl »

jonplackett wrote: post #18
neodypsis wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've noticed 4o uses a lot of emojis, and, in general, is very enthusiastic. I find it funny. If I want a more formal bot, I switch to one of the o3 family.

Every now and then 4o seems to get a bit drunk and use tonnes of emojis or start swearing when I haven’t sworn myself in the chat. The other day I asked a fairly innocuous question and it LOLed and said it’d give me the ‘no Bullshit answer’

I've had 4o start off its response with a Smiling Face with Sunglasses emoji by the heading unprompted lol.

edit: does hacker news filter out emojis? TIL (there should be emojis after this colon: )

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