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Re: An image of an archeologist adventurer who wears a hat and uses a bullwhip

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Post by victorbjorklund »

mvieira38 wrote: post #96
coderenegade wrote: post #90

I don't see why this is an issue? The prompts imply obvious and well-known characters, and don't make it clear that they want an original answer. Most humans would probably give you similar answers if you didn't add an additional qualifier like "not Indiana Jones". The only difference is that a human can't exactly reproduce the likeness of a famous character without significant time and effort. The real issue here is…

It's an IP theft machine. Humans wouldn't be allowed to publish these pictures for profit, but OpenAI is allowed to "generate" them?

I would 100% be allowed to draw an image of Indiana Jones in illustrator. There is no law against me drawing his likeness.

Re: An image of an archeologist adventurer who wears a hat and uses a bullwhip

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Post by stevage »

salamanderman wrote: post #99
stevage wrote: post #40

So, no speculation as to why Spiderman and Harry Potter were forbidden but Terminator and James Bond were allowed?

If I were doing this, I would have the system generate the image, and then I would have it run a secondary estimate saying "probability that this is a picture of [list of characters that Disney has given us reference input for]". If the picture has a "looks like Spiderman" score greater than X, then block it. EDIT - To answer the question, I'm guessing Disney provided a reference set of copyrighted images and charact…

There seemed to be so many that weren't blocked, which is curious.

Re: An image of an archeologist adventurer who wears a hat and uses a bullwhip

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Post by shadowgovt »

Velorivox wrote: post #74
shadowgovt wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know of no other type of theft that results in more of something existing in the world. Stealing deprives someone of something; copying data (from training an AI all the way to pedestrian "YoU wOuLdN'T DoWnLoAd a cAr" early-aughts file-sharing) decreases scarcity, it doesn't increase it.

Identity theft...more of you exist!

Identity theft is the greatest con merchants ever pulled on the public. Turning the responsibility around from "A merchant got scammed because their KYC policy was too thin, because they make more money if they do more business with fewer verifications (until someone comes along and cheats them)" to "when they do get scammed, maybe it can be the fault of the person who was impersonated instead of the scammer" was some brilliant sleight-of-hand.

It isn't your responsibility if a bank you've never set foot in gave a bunch of money to someone who isn't you and said they were you... And it never should have been. The moment companies started trying to put that into credit ratings, they should have been barred for discriminatory practices against the unlucky.

Re: An image of an archeologist adventurer who wears a hat and uses a bullwhip

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Post by pier25 »

victorbjorklund wrote: post #111
mvieira38 wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's an IP theft machine. Humans wouldn't be allowed to publish these pictures for profit, but OpenAI is allowed to "generate" them?

I would 100% be allowed to draw an image of Indiana Jones in illustrator. There is no law against me drawing his likeness.

No, you aren't allowed to monetize an image of Indiana Jones even if you made it yourself.

Re: An image of an archeologist adventurer who wears a hat and uses a bullwhip

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Post by Keyframe »

Today I finally caved in and tried the ghibli style transfer in chatgpt. I gave it a photo of my daughter and said the thing (prompt shared about). It said it couldn't due to copyright issues. Fine. I removed ghibli from the prompt and replaced it with a well-known japanese studio where Hayao Miyazaki works. Still nothing, copyright reasons my fellow human. I thought they finally turned it off due to the pressure, but then something caught my eye. My daughter, on the image, had a t-shirt with Mickey Mouse on it! I used the original prompt with ghibli in it and added to "paint a unicorn on the t-shirt instead to avoid copyright issues". It worked.

tl;dr; Try the disney boss and see what happens!

Re: An image of an archeologist adventurer who wears a hat and uses a bullwhip

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Post by swyx »

reserving moral judgment and specifically explaining why gpt4o cant do spiderman and harry potter but can do ghibli: i havent seen anyone point it out but japan has pretty ai friendly laws

https://petapixel.com/2023/06/05/japan-declares-ai-training-...

Re: An image of an archeologist adventurer who wears a hat and uses a bullwhip

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Post by pier25 »

whycome wrote: post #68
GPerson wrote: post #54

I just think it’s stealing, and honestly not that cool once you’ve seen it once or twice, and given the ramifications for humanity.

The majority of human creation is like this. All language. Process. Even the US anthem was “stolen”

Huge difference is you cannot scale a single human a billion times to industrialize his knowledge.

Re: An image of an archeologist adventurer who wears a hat and uses a bullwhip

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Post by jofla_net »

teddyh wrote: post #37
burnished wrote: post #25

Oooh those guardrails make me angry. I get why they are there (dont poke the bear) but it doesn't make me overlook the self serving hypocrisy involved. Though I am also generally opposed to the notion of intellectual property whatsoever on the basis that it doesn't seem to serve its intended purpose and what good could be salvaged from its various systems can already be well represented with other existing legal conc…

The problem is people at large companies creating these AI models, wanting the freedom to copy artists’ works when using it, but these large companies also want to keep copyright protection intact, for their regular business activities. They want to eat the cake and have it too. And they are arguing for essentially eliminating copyright for their specific purpose and convenience, when copyright has virtually never be…

I guess the best explanation for what we're witnessing is the notion that 'Money Talks', and sadly nothing more. To think thats all that fair use activists lacked in years passed..

Re: An image of an archeologist adventurer who wears a hat and uses a bullwhip

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Post by runarberg »

coderenegade wrote: post #90

I don't see why this is an issue? The prompts imply obvious and well-known characters, and don't make it clear that they want an original answer. Most humans would probably give you similar answers if you didn't add an additional qualifier like "not Indiana Jones". The only difference is that a human can't exactly reproduce the likeness of a famous character without significant time and effort. The real issue here is…

Overfitting is generally a sign of a useless model

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overfitting

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