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Android Isn't the Anti-iPhone Anymore

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Re: Android Isn't the Anti-iPhone Anymore

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When I first heard that Android was based on Linux, I thought, "Great! I'll be able to use my phone the way I use my desktop, with shell scripts, cron tasks, etc."

The reality was quite a disappointment. I suppose I could do at least some of the things I'd like to do with it if I rooted it, but I don't want to become a full-on hobbyist; I just want to do basic things that I routinely do in seconds on a normal PC.

Re: Android Isn't the Anti-iPhone Anymore

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post #9

This is why I'm looking at an iPhone as my next device when my current phone gives up the ghost. If you're going to force me into a walled garden then I might get one that offers the most "social interoperability" where I live, and has a nicer (imo) ecosystem built around it. The section on copy pasted designs really hit home for me. Android phones used to be the wild west of experimentation and phones that were cool…

This is exactly why I left Android. If you're going to become the iPhone and cost nearly as much, I'll just buy the real thing.

Re: Android Isn't the Anti-iPhone Anymore

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post #9

This is why I'm looking at an iPhone as my next device when my current phone gives up the ghost. If you're going to force me into a walled garden then I might get one that offers the most "social interoperability" where I live, and has a nicer (imo) ecosystem built around it. The section on copy pasted designs really hit home for me. Android phones used to be the wild west of experimentation and phones that were cool…

I'm in the same boat as well, my current Android will be my last.

The hardware keeps falling further behind on specs while it cuts features and raises prices.

The software is quickly becoming forced AI gimmicks that stop being supported in the next update and change for the sake of change for worse and bugs galore. I pretty much dread when Android updates now; the best case scenario is everything gets a bit uglier, but the typical case is instability for a couple months.

Meanwhile, Apple's ecosystem keeps getting better.

Re: Android Isn't the Anti-iPhone Anymore

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post #2

100%. I miss the days when my phone was my phone, not Google’s. And of course nowadays a Windows computer really belongs to Microsoft, and an Apple computer belongs to Apple. At least my Linux box is mine. Well, mine and Lennart’s.

Linux is going super strong in 2025, I'd say we're in the best health we've ever been. Totally usable on desktop, so many vibrant distros that all bring something different.

The phone situation is so tragic, they're so central to our lives but so utterly awful.

Re: Android Isn't the Anti-iPhone Anymore

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When I first heard that Android was based on Linux, I thought, "Great! I'll be able to use my phone the way I use my desktop, with shell scripts, cron tasks, etc." The reality was quite a disappointment. I suppose I could do at least some of the things I'd like to do with it if I rooted it, but I don't want to become a full-on hobbyist; I just want to do basic things that I routinely do in seconds on a normal PC.

Not quite on par with a proper programming environment like desktop Linux, you can still do some useful things with Termux on a non rooted device. Only recently got into it, but it's quite cool to be able to ssh in and write scripts, use Termux API plugin and other things Worth checking out.

I wish Android dev wasn't such a pia and tied to Android SDK. I just want to "make" and "./main" without 10gigs of Android crap to get a hello world app.

Re: Android Isn't the Anti-iPhone Anymore

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post #7

Android lost its edge when Huawei was denied access to the Play Store. Huawei was the driving force behind true innovation in the Android ecosystem and one of its biggest contributors. Even today, my 2019 P30 Pro holds its own against the latest flagships—a testament to the kind of progress we lost.

>Huawei was the driving force behind true innovation in the Android ecosystem and one of its biggest contributors.

>Even today, my 2019 P30 Pro holds its own against the latest flagships—a testament to the kind of progress we lost.

What "innovation" are you talking about? Comparisons to other phones released alongside the P30 Pro doesn't show as it being better in any meaningful aspect. Camera performance is basically the same as an iPhone[1][2], and CPU performance is about the same as other flagship Androids[3].

[1] https://www.dxomark.com/huawei-p30-pro-camera-review/

[2] https://www.dxomark.com/updated-apple-iphone-11-pro-max-came...

[3] https://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/compare_cpu-hisilicon_kirin_98...

Re: Android Isn't the Anti-iPhone Anymore

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I'm in the process of switching to Graphene OS. So far its a very capable system with minimal tinkering to get basic functionality. I'm seeing how far i can get without the sandboxed Play Store, there's a lot of great FOSS and alt "playstores" for rapid trial and error. Reminds me a bit of the early days of smart phones when you could sample whatever apps were trending without fear of ads and micro transactions, and play around with the device to get it just right.

Re: Android Isn't the Anti-iPhone Anymore

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I've always been rather happy with Android in the form of certain versions/ROMs like Cyanogen in the past or GrapheneOS nowadays. The latter is lean, not bloated, secure and - IMO - very usable. Installing it is easy and there are also easy and well documented methods included for enabling all sorts of Google functionality which (some) users might be missing from the default state (like the Play store, "enhanced" location services and all those sorts of things).

I also have an iPhone as a work device and I've had different personal iPhones in the past. iOS is fine but Android can be much more flexible (and easy access to an open source "App Store" like F-Droid is awesome).

Re: Android Isn't the Anti-iPhone Anymore

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post #9

This is why I'm looking at an iPhone as my next device when my current phone gives up the ghost. If you're going to force me into a walled garden then I might get one that offers the most "social interoperability" where I live, and has a nicer (imo) ecosystem built around it. The section on copy pasted designs really hit home for me. Android phones used to be the wild west of experimentation and phones that were cool…

I won't be replacing my android phone either. But I'm also not going to the iPhone. I don't find anything in that ecosystem any more attractive than android.

Instead, I'll be forgoing a smartphone entirely. I've been keeping close track on my smartphone usage, and there is literally nothing I use it for that is actually necessary, so giving it up seems like an easy win.

Re: Android Isn't the Anti-iPhone Anymore

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post #9

This is why I'm looking at an iPhone as my next device when my current phone gives up the ghost. If you're going to force me into a walled garden then I might get one that offers the most "social interoperability" where I live, and has a nicer (imo) ecosystem built around it. The section on copy pasted designs really hit home for me. Android phones used to be the wild west of experimentation and phones that were cool…

I'm in the same boat as well, my current Android will be my last. The hardware keeps falling further behind on specs while it cuts features and raises prices. The software is quickly becoming forced AI gimmicks that stop being supported in the next update and change for the sake of change for worse and bugs galore. I pretty much dread when Android updates now; the best case scenario is everything gets a bit uglier, b…

> I pretty much dread when Android updates now

So do I, but to be fair, I dread all software updates on anything these days.

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