Ok, I'll bite. I predict that everything in this article is horse manure. AGI will not happen. LLMs will be tools, that can automate away stuff, like today and they will get slightly, or quite a bit better at it. That will be all. See you in two years, I'm excited what will be the truth.
When is the earliest that you would have predicted where we are today?
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#82> "OpenBrain (the leading US AI project) builds AI agents that are good enough to dramatically accelerate their research. The humans, who up until very recently had been the best AI researchers on the planet, sit back and watch the AIs do their jobs, making better and better AI systems." I'm not sure what gives the authors the confidence to predict such statements. Wishful thinking? Worst-case paranoia? I agree that…
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#83Good future predictions: insights into the fundamental principles that shape society, more law than speculation. Made by visionaries. Example: Vernor Vinge.
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#84how am I supposed to take articles like this seriously when they say absolutely false bullshit like this > the AIs can do everything taught by a CS degree no, they fucking can't. not at all. not even close. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. Does anyone really think this? Why have I not seen -any- complete software created via vibe coding yet?
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#87Older and related article from one of the authors titled "What 2026 looks like", that is holding up very well against time. Written in mid 2021 (pre ChatGPT) https://www.alignmentforum.org/posts/6Xgy6CAf2jqHhynHL/what-... //edit: remove the referral tags from URL
That's incredible how much it broadly aligns with what has happened. Especially because it was before ChatGPT.
This forum has been so behind for too long.
Sama has been saying this a decade now: “Development of Superhuman machine intelligence is probably the greatest threat to the continued existence of humanity” 2015 https://blog.samaltman.com/machine-intelligence-part-1
Hinton, Ilya, Dario Amodei, RLHF inventor, Deepmind founders. They all get it, which is why they’re the smart cookies in those positions.
First stage is denial, I get it, not easy to swallow the gravity of what’s coming.
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#89This is hilariously over-optimistic on the timescales. Like on this timeline we'll have a Mars colony in 10 years, immortality drugs in 15 and Half Life 3 in 20.
Can you share your detailed projection of what you expect the future to look like so I can compare?
5 years: AI coding assistants are a lot better than they are now, but still can't actually replace junior engineers (at least ones that aren't shit). AI fraud is rampant, with faked audio commonplace. Some companies try replacing call centres with AI, but it doesn't really work and everyone hates it.
Tesla's robotaxi won't be available, but Waymo will be in most major US cities.
10 years: AI assistants are now useful enough that you can use them in the ways that Apple and Google really wanted you to use Siri/Google Assistant 5 years ago. "What have I got scheduled for today?" will give useful results, and you'll be able to have a natural conversation and take actions that you trust ("cancel my 10am meeting; tell them I'm sick").
AI coding assistants are now very good and everyone will use them. Junior devs will still exist. Vibe coding will actually work.
Most AI Startups will have gone bust, leaving only a few players.
Art-based AI will be very popular and artists will use it all the time. It will be part of their normal workflow.
Waymo will become available in Europe.
Some receptionists and PAs have been replaced by AI.
15 years: AI researchers finally discover how to do on-line learning.
Humanoid robots are robust and smart enough to survive in the real world and start to be deployed in controlled environments (e.g. factories) doing simple tasks.
Driverless cars are "normal" but not owned by individuals and driverful cars are still way more common.
Small light computers become fast enough that autonomous slaughter it's become reality (i.e. drones that can do their own navigation and face recognition etc.)
20 years: Valve confirms no Half Life 3.
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#90Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's incredible how much it broadly aligns with what has happened. Especially because it was before ChatGPT.
Will people finally wake up that the AGI X-Risk people have been right and we’re rapidly approaching a really fucking big deal? This forum has been so behind for too long. Sama has been saying this a decade now: “Development of Superhuman machine intelligence is probably the greatest threat to the continued existence of humanity” 2015 https://blog.samaltman.com/machine-intelligence-part-1 Hinton, Ilya, Dario Amodei,…
Though that doesn't mean that the current version of language models will ever achieve AGI, and I sincerely doubt they will. They'll likely be a component in the AI, but likely not the thing that "drives"