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Re: TV Garden

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Post by anjel »

phantomathkg wrote: post #45
thundergolfer wrote: post #6

One of those projects that has me wondering what I was doing instead of building this. The end result is great, and the technical details seem like they'd be interesting. TIL about Internet Protocol TV: https://github.com/iptv-org/iptv

What you see in that repo is not truly true IPTV[0]. What you see in the repo is a lot of different HLS manifest[1], which in turn pointed to different questionable sources of all the OTT streams around the world. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_IPTV_Forum [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_Live_Streaming

So the cable pirated TV to IPTV reflector streams are being re-pirated or maybe just Liberated?

Re: TV Garden

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Post by keeperofdakeys »

hunter2_ wrote: post #57
hombre_fatal wrote: post #46

Can someone explain the economics of this? So, there are a bunch of open http endpoints serving free video feeds and they don't care about bandwidth? It's not like radio where you broadcast it and people passively receive the signal. This is a great service for language practice, though. Wish it had a login + favorites system.

I never got into this aspect of networking, so I truly don't know what I'm talking about and wish someone will correct me, but on some level, IP does indeed have broadcast/multicast capabilities that cause the sender's egress traffic to remain independent of the number of recipients rather than being equal to the sum of recipients' ingress traffic, right? Does this only work downstream of the last router, and therefo…

> IP does indeed have broadcast/multicast capabilities that cause the sender's egress traffic to remain independent of the number of recipients rather than being equal to the sum of recipients' ingress traffic, right?

Yes multicast, however you can't do multicast over the internet. In practise the technology is mainly used in production and enterprise scenarios (broadcast, signage, hotels, stadiums, etc).

Instead big streaming platforms like netflix or twich use CDN boxes installed locally at major ISPs. Also with so much hardware acceleration on modern NICs these days, it's surprisingly easy to handle Gbits of throughput for audio/video streaming.

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Post by morsch »

An option to sort stations by (some reasonable measure of) popularity instead of alphabetically would be nice.

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Post by dkh »

vivzkestrel wrote: post #64
NKosmatos wrote: post #13

There’s also Radio Garden https://radio.garden/

maybe we need a podcast.garden now

Most [public] podcasts are registered in Apple's podcast registry, which is what most podcast apps with a global search/discovery feature queries, and why these apps can all turn up the same podcasts. There are also things like https://podbay.fm that put give it a more general web frontend.

I suppose that the not public podcasts could be aggregated somewhere, but I'm less of a fan of that, and there's also some technical reasons why this would be more difficult than it was to aggregate these IPTV HLS streams.

Being able to view them by country or whatever is interesting, though I think perhaps less so for podcasts than something like live news, but not a bad idea

Re: TV Garden

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Post by dkh »

emmelaich wrote: post #50
AnotherGoodName wrote: post #7

For me the site is incredibly snappy. Amazing. As in i clicked Australia, clicked ABC TV and it all loaded in milliseconds.

It's missing a few major channels, Seven and Nine afaics. Maybe they don't offer free iptv.

Most of these are being "offered" in a way not intended or desired by the broadcaster

Re: TV Garden

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Post by dkh »

vault wrote: post #4

Thanks. I could spend hours watching distant cultures. Their colours, environment, technical equipment... I saw some people in Somalia using DJI microphones, those that in the West are mainly used by YouTubers. I also see TVs that are normally subject to fees. I'm aware the FAQs say it's only public streams, but I fear this won't last long.

The definition of "public" in this context is not straightforward. I, too, doubt the site is long for this world, and due to its ease-of-use could possibly also draw the broadcasters' attention to all the unprotected streams they may have either not known about, or not cared about because they were only really discoverable/usable by a relatively small group of geeks
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