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And me pointing it out is also being downvoted.
Yes, because the comments are offtopic and against the site guidelines (see the bottom of https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html ). "I the noble freethinker, standing bravely against the mob" comments are boring and repetitive, and therefore always off topic.
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It is a shame that people will downvote a thing that is expressing an honest opinion. I can't really relate to the mindset of people who use downvoting as a 'I disagree' button. I don't think this extends to the way that HN is moderated or run. It is worth looking at dang's posts every now and again to take in the job that he does and how patient he can be, even with antagonism aimed directly at HN or himself persona…
> I can't really relate to the mindset of people who use downvoting as a 'I disagree' button. Downvoting is a legitimate expression of disagreement according to PG.
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Sure but I'm not even talking politics! My comment itself was barely a criticism of HN and, yeah, downvotes don't matter - but it's exactly what I am talking about. Any push against that coziness/bubble is not tolerated. I do think it's OK for some forums - if the community agrees - to say certain topics (like politics) are off limits. I don't really think it's ok for a community to say discussion about what should b…
> My comment itself was barely a criticism of HN Your comment is (a) off-topic and (b) smacks of a complaint about not getting enough up-votes. Neither of these areas are looked upon positively in HN. If this style of comment is your modus operandi , it may explain why your work is not well-received, and in short it has nothing to do with the popularity of your opinions.
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> My comment itself was barely a criticism of HN Your comment is (a) off-topic and (b) smacks of a complaint about not getting enough up-votes. Neither of these areas are looked upon positively in HN. If this style of comment is your modus operandi , it may explain why your work is not well-received, and in short it has nothing to do with the popularity of your opinions.
With respect, those are two strawmen.
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> dang” is pronounced “dang” and not “Dan G.” WAIT WHAT?!?
I just assumed his name was actually "Dang" like he was Vietnamese or something.
It's always a site that's had dinner party vibes even tho it's so big. Weird! But the focus on curiosity and healthy is important.
I'm sure the features of HN are already extremely well thought out and precisely balanced, but I guess this is as good a time as any to throw out a feature idea: you know how you can favorite stories and comments? I want to favorite users, too. Maybe privately. Because it's like a bookmark thing where I can come back and see what interesting ones are doing. Just makes sense to internalize it as a list rather than externalize it into a browser bookmark list, I think. But then again, maybe a private list or yet another list would be too much!
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I have `showdead` enabled. It should not be the case that I find flagged posts that are good -- that are well written, don't break rules, etc -- but are flagged (presumably) due to expressing a dissenting view.
You can vouch it, and if the comment is still [dead] but it's really good you can send an email to dang and tomhow hn@ycombinator.com Remember to include a link to the comment, and use it sparsely because it's a manual processes.
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That's fair from your perspective -- although the parent's question is what would subjectively satisfy me . I don't keep a log of such instances, and I don't see a way to view my vouched posts, but it is something I observe often enough.
Sure, but the reason that question is being raised is so that we can decide for ourselves how good your evidence is - both conceptually and concretely. It certainly doesn't mean you have to share it but it makes the discussion actually meaningful. Your vouched items should be visible to you at https://news.ycombinator.com/vouched?id=dooglius
edit: sorry, I missed the sibling comment to this. I only ever come across dead comments, not posts. So I needed to add &kind=comment to see vouched comments.
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When someone makes claims about how they were unfairly treated, but won't let people look at the actual situation, that's sort of a tell. If the mods had actually treated them so badly, you can be sure that it would be pointed to with neon hypertext.