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Tech companies are telling immigrant employees on visas not to leave the U.S.
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#12I'm super interested to see what the next HN thread with that proberts lawyer dude is like. I found the commentary in the last post from him to be pretty meagre, whether it was because people were afraid to talk about this kind of stuff or they just didn't know, I'm not sure, but it seems like reality is quickly setting in for a lot of people in the US. Things are changing and they're changing fast. You won't be able…
The most interesting thing I see is people overestimate how resilient the system is. Unfortunately, this is at the whim of a president, who with a majority in the court, dictates the law. With a ban or at his whim, even legal residents can find themselves out. We tend to think the system is resilient to this, but ultimately it really isn't. Scholars cannot even agree on whether these tech workers are entitled to the amendments (since they are not citizens, despite living in the US). Much of this was eye opening for me, and is used by Rubio as a basis to deport the Korean girl and the Columbia guy (also a Harvard student as of yesterday). The law is unfortunately very vague and thus open to interpretation (which is ultimately subject to the commander in chief, the current clown)
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> Brighter days ahead once again for the descendants of those that settled, built, and fought for this country.
A very 1920s vibe in the 2020s, which makes me sad that we've slid this far back, that so many Americans no longer believe that the melting pot is a good idea even in theory.
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It's not "don't leave", but "don't put yourself in a situation there you have to reenter". It's in neither party's interest to be in that situation.
What happens if and when ICE starts rounding visa holders up to deport? No snark intended, this is a genuine question based on all available evidence. I don’t endorse such action at all, but we are existing in exceptional times and the discussion is important. “If you stay, what are you getting yourself into?” is a serious question to ask and to manage the risk around.
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Regardless of your opinions of guest worker visas, they are here voluntarily on legal visas. The immigration lawyers at these companies are advising them they may not be allowed to reenter, for no cause. It is a disgrace to the honor of America.
At two different US companies I had to attend training led by a lawyer on how to file H1b and L1 applications, how to write recruitment ads and coaching visa applicants for their interviews.
Both training programmes were surprisingly similar, even two years apart.
No notes were allowed. No slides.
Even the call for attendance was verbal and in person.
This is a US corporation problem, not the US government’s.
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#17Funny thing is that getting a visa for China is now more seemless than it has ever been and they love my euros.
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#18If you are on H1b, buy a burner phone before you leave and enter the country. Should he fine.
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#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
> legal visas US government often disagrees. https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/indian-corporation-pays-re... https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/indian-management-consulti... https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdtx/pr/houston-consulting-comp...
No one is claiming that everyone is on a legal visa or that companies don’t break the law. The argument is that reentry, even if you are legal right now, might be denied for reasons which wouldn’t have gotten you even a sideways look six months ago. Which surely you don’t disagree?
I'm not sure. The media is pointing out specific cases but the question is what % of travelers on visa made it in/out without trouble. There is heightened focus on enforcement. They may have trained their software to have a lower threshold of social media posts for entry. So, I do believe that you're at risk if you've made controversial statements not in line with what US considers as friendly behavior.
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> Brighter days ahead once again for the descendants of those that settled, built, and fought for this country. A very 1920s vibe in the 2020s, which makes me sad that we've slid this far back, that so many Americans no longer believe that the melting pot is a good idea even in theory.
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