[dead]
Tell HN: Announcing tomhow as a public moderator
361–370 of 498 posts
Re: Tell HN: Announcing tomhow as a public moderator
#362Earlier quoted context omitted.
> A polite well worded post that disagrees with the mainstream will indeed still exist, but it will be moderated to unreadably transparent and hidden by default. It’s not a great experience. Speaking from personal experience only: I have mostly not observed "polite, well-worded posts disagreeing with the mainstream" get downvoted to oblivion, unless some other factor also applies, such as that they're also things tha…
> If you post (by way of example only, please observe the use-mention distinction here) a polite version of "ads are good and adblockers are stealing", and get a massive pile of downvotes... Sure, I imagine the grandparent poster means arguing something like "limiting access for extensons is good because they're often used to steal financial assets". Old extensions are sold, or cracked and updated to inclue malware.
I want to avoid letting a meta-level conversation slip into object-level. But using the object-level as an example, I would expect a comment that acknowledges the types of things that are hard to build with Manifest V3, particularly more advanced adblocking, and acknowledges that there need to be solutions for those things, and makes the point that letting extensions be all-powerful does lead to problems and that also needs solving, would not get downvoted to oblivion. That's much more nuanced than, for instance, suggesting that Manifest V3 is an unalloyed good with zero problems, which I would expect to get downvoted.
Re: Tell HN: Announcing tomhow as a public moderator
#363Thinking far ahead, is there some way we can train LLMs that will moderate the same way as dang?
Re: Tell HN: Announcing tomhow as a public moderator
#364Many thanks for the warm welcome, everyone. It’s been a privilege to help support this community and to work alongside dang, who has been a great friend and mentor for many years. It’s a great responsibility, to keep HN a healthy and thriving community, and I’m continually amazed to see all the ways dang puts thought and energy into it. One final note is that it was never part of the negotiations that I was expected…
Welcome! Good luck for a hard job.
Re: Tell HN: Announcing tomhow as a public moderator
#365Earlier quoted context omitted.
I have `showdead` enabled. It should not be the case that I find flagged posts that are good -- that are well written, don't break rules, etc -- but are flagged (presumably) due to expressing a dissenting view.
That ‘presumably’ is doing a lot of lifting and would be better supported by some examples of such posts.
That's fair from your perspective -- although the parent's question is what would subjectively satisfy me. I don't keep a log of such instances, and I don't see a way to view my vouched posts, but it is something I observe often enough.
Re: Tell HN: Announcing tomhow as a public moderator
#366Welcome to the job Tom. :-)
Could you or Dang please explain, why this post with 118 points and 121 comments in 3 hours, about news of the day highly relevant to anybody in Tech, only shows up on page 18?
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43561253
Just trying to understand the algo...
Re: Tell HN: Announcing tomhow as a public moderator
#367I’ll bet this will fix HN’s transparency issues.
[deleted]
Re: Tell HN: Announcing tomhow as a public moderator
#368While tomhow is of course welcome, I want to express gratitude to dang for years of quite fair moderation. I've been around multiple communities and he's nothing like those power-tripping libera.chat or reddit moderators.
Re: Tell HN: Announcing tomhow as a public moderator
#369Many thanks for the warm welcome, everyone. It’s been a privilege to help support this community and to work alongside dang, who has been a great friend and mentor for many years. It’s a great responsibility, to keep HN a healthy and thriving community, and I’m continually amazed to see all the ways dang puts thought and energy into it. One final note is that it was never part of the negotiations that I was expected…
Best wishes! Please let me know if there's anything I can do to help.
Re: Tell HN: Announcing tomhow as a public moderator
#370Earlier quoted context omitted.
That ‘presumably’ is doing a lot of lifting and would be better supported by some examples of such posts.
That's fair from your perspective -- although the parent's question is what would subjectively satisfy me . I don't keep a log of such instances, and I don't see a way to view my vouched posts, but it is something I observe often enough.
Sure, but the reason that question is being raised is so that we can decide for ourselves how good your evidence is - both conceptually and concretely. It certainly doesn't mean you have to share it but it makes the discussion actually meaningful.
Your vouched items should be visible to you at https://news.ycombinator.com/vouched?id=dooglius