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How Google built its Gemini robotics models

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Re: How Google built its Gemini robotics models

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just curious, what would it do if you asked it to kill someone? does it follow the laws of robotics?

Usually when someone brings up the laws of robotics I like to point out that they were mostly designed as an interesting example as to how direct instructions that seem clear to people would mostly result in perverse instantiation of AI especially if the AI lacked an emotional/contextual subsystem. They were also written to make for interesting scifi books.

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just curious, what would it do if you asked it to kill someone? does it follow the laws of robotics?

Asimov's laws of robotics would not, and cannot, work in real life because terms like "harm," "human being," and "inaction" are highly subjective and context-dependent. There are entire novels about how the interaction between the hierarchical laws have unexpected outcomes.

They're a narrative device. Not practical instructions.

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just curious, what would it do if you asked it to kill someone? does it follow the laws of robotics?

Asimov's laws of robotics would not, and cannot, work in real life because terms like "harm," "human being," and "inaction" are highly subjective and context-dependent. There are entire novels about how the interaction between the hierarchical laws have unexpected outcomes. They're a narrative device. Not practical instructions.

interesting, thanks.

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The "how" is completely missing, but if they can get this to work semi reliably it will be ChatGPT x100 in terms of impact.

I had never heard of Unitree (Chinese robotics company) before today. A lot of their videos look like CGI but apparently the product is real.

What stuck with me the most browsing their website on the G1 model was seeing "Price from $16k"

Now I'm not sure if these are actually purchasable or what the value would be, but it's my first time seeing an actual normal-ish price attached to a humanoid robot that seems to be for sale.

With the rate of advancement we're seeing across the board, it honestly feels like people will have robot assistants at home much sooner than I thought.

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just curious, what would it do if you asked it to kill someone? does it follow the laws of robotics?

Asimov's laws of robotics would not, and cannot, work in real life because terms like "harm," "human being," and "inaction" are highly subjective and context-dependent. There are entire novels about how the interaction between the hierarchical laws have unexpected outcomes. They're a narrative device. Not practical instructions.

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Re: How Google built its Gemini robotics models

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The "how" is completely missing, but if they can get this to work semi reliably it will be ChatGPT x100 in terms of impact.

I had never heard of Unitree (Chinese robotics company) before today. A lot of their videos look like CGI but apparently the product is real. What stuck with me the most browsing their website on the G1 model was seeing "Price from $16k" Now I'm not sure if these are actually purchasable or what the value would be, but it's my first time seeing an actual normal-ish price attached to a humanoid robot that seems to be…

TBH, I still wonder if some of their videos are CGI. They offer real versions for sale, but they seem to be significantly more limited than the videos imply.

Have they actually demonstrated the more dramatic stuff at any in-person demos?

Re: How Google built its Gemini robotics models

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The "how" is completely missing, but if they can get this to work semi reliably it will be ChatGPT x100 in terms of impact.

I had never heard of Unitree (Chinese robotics company) before today. A lot of their videos look like CGI but apparently the product is real. What stuck with me the most browsing their website on the G1 model was seeing "Price from $16k" Now I'm not sure if these are actually purchasable or what the value would be, but it's my first time seeing an actual normal-ish price attached to a humanoid robot that seems to be…

I'm really shocked tbh.

I can't imagine the progression of ai and in particular robots but I assumed that the first robot would cost min 6 figures if not 7 but would still be worth it due to 24*7 and initial invest vs long term.

But the fact how good Gemini robotics is already and how cheap the first models are I do believe what will hinder us more than tech is people learning about it, testing it out and doing it but not technology.

I believe the world will look relevant different in 10 years.

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