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US accidentally sent Maryland father to Salvadorian prison, can't get him back

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Re: US accidentally sent Maryland father to Salvadorian prison, can't get him back

#51
post #7

it's not an "accident" if you randomly round up people based on nothing, then exile them to a foreign slave prison, it was a deliberate series of steps to terrify these people and everyone else.

Yup. The whole setup is built around taking away legal recourse from people so they can be mistreated. It's Guantanamo squared. Also derived from the UK's failed Rwanda scheme (failed because they couldn't bypass the courts enough!), Windrush errors, and the Australian government's use of immigration detention on Nauru. Sooner or later it's going to happen to someone who's a full US national. (mind you this is going…

> mind you this is going to get flagged off by

If you get flagged, it might just be because you're violating the HN guidelines with the part of your comment I replied to.

Re: US accidentally sent Maryland father to Salvadorian prison, can't get him back

#53
post #18

Trump admin looks closer and closer to nazi germany.

Please go read up what happened outside Krakow, Poland in the 1940s. I did. I actually visited. Trump is still very very far away from that. Assuming this man is innocent, we should rather blame El Salvador for actually imprisoning him.

What happened in Germany 1933?

Its only 3 month since Trump became president.

Re: US accidentally sent Maryland father to Salvadorian prison, can't get him back

#55

Accidents like this are required in order to demonstrate the scale of the "will" behind the power. This should be a un-ignorable reminder of the value of due process. Better a guilty person go free than an innocent person sent to their long, slow, undignified death.

>This should be a un-ignorable reminder of the value of due process I agree with you. Now explain how can we scale the due process to deport everyone that entered here illegally in a reasonable timeframe. 15-30 million hearings will take a century to be resolved. The system is not designed for such massive load in mind.

If it's so important to get done quickly, hire more people to do it. Move resources to solve the most pressing problems first.

Otherwise let law/justice take as long as law/justice takes.

Re: US accidentally sent Maryland father to Salvadorian prison, can't get him back

#57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> with conditions that would certainly be illegal in the US itself. Why would you assume this? We're also under investigation for human rights abuses in our prisons. AFAIK most of the rights you have as a prisoner are civil rights.

The US seems to treat its successful citizens incredibly well, but punish its failures incredibly harshly. Your point is valid.

I wouldn't be so sure about the successful citizens. You probably have to be WASP cis male to maximize your chances.

Re: US accidentally sent Maryland father to Salvadorian prison, can't get him back

#58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>This should be a un-ignorable reminder of the value of due process I agree with you. Now explain how can we scale the due process to deport everyone that entered here illegally in a reasonable timeframe. 15-30 million hearings will take a century to be resolved. The system is not designed for such massive load in mind.

If it's so important to get done quickly, hire more people to do it. Move resources to solve the most pressing problems first. Otherwise let law/justice take as long as law/justice takes.

>Otherwise let law/justice take as long as law/justice takes.

Once again I agree with you. Let's deport them first and make remote immigration courts in every US embassy. This way they have remedy for false positives, and let law/justice take as long as law/justice takes

Re: US accidentally sent Maryland father to Salvadorian prison, can't get him back

#59

Accidents like this are required in order to demonstrate the scale of the "will" behind the power. This should be a un-ignorable reminder of the value of due process. Better a guilty person go free than an innocent person sent to their long, slow, undignified death.

>This should be a un-ignorable reminder of the value of due process I agree with you. Now explain how can we scale the due process to deport everyone that entered here illegally in a reasonable timeframe. 15-30 million hearings will take a century to be resolved. The system is not designed for such massive load in mind.

And how long will it take to process the illegal Immigration of all the Europeans that entered the American continent 300 years ago..?

Re: US accidentally sent Maryland father to Salvadorian prison, can't get him back

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post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>This should be a un-ignorable reminder of the value of due process I agree with you. Now explain how can we scale the due process to deport everyone that entered here illegally in a reasonable timeframe. 15-30 million hearings will take a century to be resolved. The system is not designed for such massive load in mind.

And how long will it take to process the illegal Immigration of all the Europeans that entered the American continent 300 years ago..?

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