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CDE Open Sourced

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Re: CDE Open Sourced

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Post by rogerbinns »

Zenst wrote: post #3

Excellent, was always my favorite GUI as was compact, fast, and could get on with things with the only real distraction being xeye's that you could get bored of very soon.

You what? I worked on a competitor to CDE. We existed first and were actually compact and fast. When CDE was announced it put a serious dent in our business, but then was vapourware for quite a while so our sales returned. And once available was bloated, ugly and slow.

We also had a side business in the graphical toolkit CDE used (Motif). Basically we took the Motif from OSF, fixed bugs and made a whole host of similar improvements and then sold and supported the result.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IXI_Limited

Re: CDE Open Sourced

#12

Post by barbs »

dlinder wrote: post #9

I read this as: "CDE open sourced..." "...on SourceForge"

Pardon my ignorance, but what's wrong with SourceForge? Is it simply not as popular as other open-source project sites?

Re: CDE Open Sourced

#13

Post by tomjakubowski »

barbs wrote: post #12
dlinder wrote: post #9

I read this as: "CDE open sourced..." "...on SourceForge"

Pardon my ignorance, but what's wrong with SourceForge? Is it simply not as popular as other open-source project sites?

Obnoxious ads everywhere, download page with countdown timer, and as you mentioned the OSS community has largely abandoned it. Do you think this doesn't matter?

Re: CDE Open Sourced

#14

Post by owyn »

barbs wrote: post #12
dlinder wrote: post #9

I read this as: "CDE open sourced..." "...on SourceForge"

Pardon my ignorance, but what's wrong with SourceForge? Is it simply not as popular as other open-source project sites?

Sourceforge was great back in the day when it was the only (?) option for public code hosting besides running your own site, but it's not as "cool" now... it feels like most projects have left, only abandoned projects remain. Putting a "new" project there seems strange. I don't know if that's due to functionality or not though, maybe it's just that the UI feels dated. Even with free offerings, people pay attention to the usability and UI, and although I've never run a project using sourceforge, I don't think I'd ever choose (or recommend) it over github or bitbucket. I'd love to hear reasons why I'm wrong on that opinion?

Re: CDE Open Sourced

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Post by einhverfr »

barbs wrote: post #12
dlinder wrote: post #9

I read this as: "CDE open sourced..." "...on SourceForge"

Pardon my ignorance, but what's wrong with SourceForge? Is it simply not as popular as other open-source project sites?

LedgerSMB is on Sourceforge and probably will never move. Moving is a lot of work. Sourceforge has some quirks but it isn't really all that bad. Even for projects on GitHub, it's not bad to have a Sourceforge presence for hosting downloads and the like. It is true that in general we have been trying to move more and more of our services off Sourceforge, but this has been a slow process.

Sourceforge offers a lot of things that GitHub and Bitbucket don't offer. I haven't been able to find email list hosting integrated with project management anywhere else yet but maybe I haven't been looking hard enough. The closest thing you have is Google Code.

I wouldn't say there's anything wrong with it. It isn't as trendy as some others, but I think you want to look for concrete benefits, not worry about where the hottest spot is at the moment.

Re: CDE Open Sourced

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Post by gt384u »

owyn wrote: post #14
barbs wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pardon my ignorance, but what's wrong with SourceForge? Is it simply not as popular as other open-source project sites?

Sourceforge was great back in the day when it was the only (?) option for public code hosting besides running your own site, but it's not as "cool" now... it feels like most projects have left, only abandoned projects remain. Putting a "new" project there seems strange. I don't know if that's due to functionality or not though, maybe it's just that the UI feels dated. Even with free offerings, people pay attention to…

I had a conversation with a senior engineer on SourceForge where he pointed out that most people forget that developers are actually a minority of their business: most of their users are nontechnical people that come to them to download binaries of things like zip utilities.

Re: CDE Open Sourced

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Post by einhverfr »

CDE... Oh the memories.

This is a good thing. Those few unfortunate souls who have to care will now have free access to the code in order to figure out the problems they are having.....

Re: CDE Open Sourced

#18

Post by dfc »

madrona wrote: post #10

Bad memories of writing CS assignments on overtaxed Sun workstations, with that crap WM. I fetishized those expensive purple boxes until I had to use one.

SGI Indys were my purple box fetish.

Re: CDE Open Sourced

#19

Post by Zenst »

rogerbinns wrote: post #11
Zenst wrote: post #3

Excellent, was always my favorite GUI as was compact, fast, and could get on with things with the only real distraction being xeye's that you could get bored of very soon.

You what? I worked on a competitor to CDE. We existed first and were actually compact and fast. When CDE was announced it put a serious dent in our business, but then was vapourware for quite a while so our sales returned. And once available was bloated, ugly and slow. We also had a side business in the graphical toolkit CDE used (Motif). Basically we took the Motif from OSF, fixed bugs and made a whole host of simil…

Sorry to hear CDE hits a nerve with you. Vaugly recall your product from my days at DHL and when we looked at UNIX on the desktop with SCO, but SCO etc priced themselfs out of the market on that one on comparision to windows.

So what happened to your GUI today?

As for Motif, well OSF is the Open Source Foundation right and if so selling open source, can see how that business model worked out.

IIRC your GUI was mostly desktop/PC based and in that CDE wasn't a competitor so i'm somewhat confused, but I belive you.

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