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It is crazy how out of touch people on this platform can be. I live in Europe but have been to Asia and South America. People use WhatsApp everywhere. Just because you live in North America where everyone uses SMS/iMessage/whatever doesn't mean everyone does. I can remember my parents scolding me because they got charged for me receiving some SMS. WhatsApp was a gamechanger. You could send messages or pictures withou…
Looks interesting. It would be nice to see something like this for all the communication methods in Beeper unified together. That way all communication is covered rather then just 1 app of many.
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> The people you chat with have an expectation of privacy so this would probably be illegal in many jurisdictions. Name one
Germany. You have a "allgemeines Persönlichkeitsrecht" (general personal rights?) that prevents other people from publishing information that's supposed to be private. Here's a case where someone published a facebook dm for example: https://openjur.de/u/636287.html
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Germany. You have a "allgemeines Persönlichkeitsrecht" (general personal rights?) that prevents other people from publishing information that's supposed to be private. Here's a case where someone published a facebook dm for example: https://openjur.de/u/636287.html
So here's the deal with German law on this topic - there's actually a big difference between sharing someone's DM and running LLM tools on social media conversations. The OLG Hamburg case from 2013 (case number 7 W 5/13) establishes that publishing private messages without permission violates your personality rights ("allgemeines Persönlichkeitsrecht"). While we don't have specific LLM court rulings yet, German data…
Your initial „name one“ comment sounded like you didn’t believe there would be a jurisdiction where it is illegal.
I don’t know if whatsmeow was intended for this use case: imagine a LLM performing multiple calls in a short period of time, could you risk to have your whatsapp account blocked by Meta?
Apparently this is the case: https://github.com/tulir/whatsmeow/discussions/199
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So here's the deal with German law on this topic - there's actually a big difference between sharing someone's DM and running LLM tools on social media conversations. The OLG Hamburg case from 2013 (case number 7 W 5/13) establishes that publishing private messages without permission violates your personality rights ("allgemeines Persönlichkeitsrecht"). While we don't have specific LLM court rulings yet, German data…
It sounds like you agree with me that the posted tool would not be legal to use in Germany then? Or am I misreading this comment? Your initial „name one“ comment sounded like you didn’t believe there would be a jurisdiction where it is illegal.
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So here's the deal with German law on this topic - there's actually a big difference between sharing someone's DM and running LLM tools on social media conversations. The OLG Hamburg case from 2013 (case number 7 W 5/13) establishes that publishing private messages without permission violates your personality rights ("allgemeines Persönlichkeitsrecht"). While we don't have specific LLM court rulings yet, German data…
It sounds like you agree with me that the posted tool would not be legal to use in Germany then? Or am I misreading this comment? Your initial „name one“ comment sounded like you didn’t believe there would be a jurisdiction where it is illegal.
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It sounds like you agree with me that the posted tool would not be legal to use in Germany then? Or am I misreading this comment? Your initial „name one“ comment sounded like you didn’t believe there would be a jurisdiction where it is illegal.
The so-called expectation of privacy is irrelevant in this context
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Huh? It's additional power draw in the midst of an energy transition. It's not currently being used differently. What do you mean what's the problem with that? Also don't forget it's just one of three aspects I can think of off the top of my head. This isn't the only issue with LLMs... Edit: while typing this reply, I remembered a fourth: I've seen many people object morally/ethically to the training method in terms…
If people need additional power, they pay for it. If they want to pay for extra power, why would we gatekeep whether their need is legitimate or not?
I'm also happy to have them pay for the full cleanup cost rather than discourage useless consumption, but somehow people don't seem to think crazy energy prices are a great idea either
Also you're still very focused on this one specific issue rather than looking at the bigger picture. Not sure if the conversation is going anywhere like this
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If people need additional power, they pay for it. If they want to pay for extra power, why would we gatekeep whether their need is legitimate or not?
Because of the aforementioned shortage. Paying for more power means coal and gas gets spun up since there aren't enough renewables, and the externalities aren't being paid for by those people I'm also happy to have them pay for the full cleanup cost rather than discourage useless consumption, but somehow people don't seem to think crazy energy prices are a great idea either Also you're still very focused on this one…