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James Webb Space Telescope reveals that most galaxies rotate clockwise

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Re: James Webb Space Telescope reveals that most galaxies rotate clockwise

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Potentially a very dumb question, but seeing the difference between cyclones and hurricane on earth (clock-wise, anti-clock-wise)... Does it mean that we are, potentially, on one of two poles(?) of the observable universe, if we're observing most galaxies around us rotating a certain way?

Thanks for asking my question 8 hours in advance and allowing me to revel in the answers! :tada:

Re: James Webb Space Telescope reveals that most galaxies rotate clockwise

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why? if you subscribe to big bang then all matter got the same "initial kick". would be easier to assume same spin?

So what caused the "initial kick" to favor one side?

What causes a perfectly symmetric ball on top of a perfectly symmetric hill to roll down via one side? (Probably quantum randomness if everything else is perfectly symmetric)

Re: James Webb Space Telescope reveals that most galaxies rotate clockwise

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This along blows my mind: I picture this bin bang and everything expanding from that point and... that everything is now a sphere. In my mind. But it isn't? Yes, I know next to nothing but love thinking about all of this.

Picture an infinitely long piece of elastic. Now stretch that elastic.

OOMkilled

Re: James Webb Space Telescope reveals that most galaxies rotate clockwise

#194

Clockwise relative to what? Does the universe have an "upwards" direction? Or is it just relative to all the other galaxies?

Clockwise relative to our viewpoint, while we would expect that we'd see an equal number rotating in either direction no matter which way we looked or where we were looking from.

Sorry if it's a dumb question, by why would we expect an equal number? Doesn't that assume that we consider ourselves at the centre of our observable universe?

Re: James Webb Space Telescope reveals that most galaxies rotate clockwise

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Clockwise relative to our viewpoint, while we would expect that we'd see an equal number rotating in either direction no matter which way we looked or where we were looking from.

Sorry if it's a dumb question, by why would we expect an equal number? Doesn't that assume that we consider ourselves at the centre of our observable universe?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copernican_principle

It seems to have caught on, but one could still doubt its applicability to all phenomena at all scales.

Re: James Webb Space Telescope reveals that most galaxies rotate clockwise

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The inner black hole did not come from the outside, it formed inside and if i had to guess, it is stuck in the inside together with all the other matter, unable to interact with the outside of the outer black hole.

Just thinking about this infinite recursion gives me the mental equivalent of a stack overflow.

Maybe generating a stack overflow was the true depiction of God!

Re: James Webb Space Telescope reveals that most galaxies rotate clockwise

#197
post #9

Potentially a very dumb question, but seeing the difference between cyclones and hurricane on earth (clock-wise, anti-clock-wise)... Does it mean that we are, potentially, on one of two poles(?) of the observable universe, if we're observing most galaxies around us rotating a certain way?

Which also implies the universe, or our section of it, is rotating. Which raises the question: where did that angular momentum come from?

Non-expert here, but I think any imperfect mass distribution with any attractive force would lead to a rotation. Which would mean, essentially, as soon as any imbalance happened in the early universe, some rotation was inevitable.

Re: James Webb Space Telescope reveals that most galaxies rotate clockwise

#198
post #9

Potentially a very dumb question, but seeing the difference between cyclones and hurricane on earth (clock-wise, anti-clock-wise)... Does it mean that we are, potentially, on one of two poles(?) of the observable universe, if we're observing most galaxies around us rotating a certain way?

We're in the centre of the observable universe.

The observable universe is the only true sphere.

The observable universe is expanding into the unobservable universe.

What would be interesting is to run a diff on the cosmic microwave background and the pictures from the James Webb space telescope to figure out where the true centre of the universe is, and derive the poles from there.

Re: James Webb Space Telescope reveals that most galaxies rotate clockwise

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> If you assume instead that the whole universe has angular momentum, well, where did that come from Would that be same kind of question as “where did the Big Bang come from?”. That’s a lot of energy that came from somewhere as well seemingly for no good reason. I also wondered immediately about dark matter; could it be that’s where the counter-balance of momentum went? Like most galaxies spin one way and most dark m…

> That’s a lot of energy that came from somewhere as well seemingly for no good reason. I never finished the book, but this reminds me of God's Debris by Scott Adams which explores a philosophy of pandeism (where God annihilated itself and became the universe).

Some say god is light. maybe it was a high energy photon that met its antiphoton.

Re: James Webb Space Telescope reveals that most galaxies rotate clockwise

#200
post #9

Potentially a very dumb question, but seeing the difference between cyclones and hurricane on earth (clock-wise, anti-clock-wise)... Does it mean that we are, potentially, on one of two poles(?) of the observable universe, if we're observing most galaxies around us rotating a certain way?

We're in the centre of the observable universe. The observable universe is the only true sphere. The observable universe is expanding into the unobservable universe. What would be interesting is to run a diff on the cosmic microwave background and the pictures from the James Webb space telescope to figure out where the true centre of the universe is, and derive the poles from there.

> The observable universe is expanding into the unobservable universe.

Is that so? My understanding is that it doesn't expend into something. And that it expend so fast that the edge of it becomes unobservable.

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