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Talkin’ about a Revolution
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Re: Talkin’ about a Revolution
#112Earlier quoted context omitted.
And even though they are treated badly, they still have voting rights . This is not Apartheid. It just isn't. > full rights to be evicted and have their homes demolished That case is being tried in courts. Such an action against blacks in South Africa would never have been in a court. Your sources prove my point.
The real Apartheid is not the israeli citizens. It's the people in the West Bank and Gaza. All of them should be israeli citizens too. Either that, or half a million settlers should get out. Can't have it both ways.
Yea exactly.
Re: Talkin’ about a Revolution
#113Earlier quoted context omitted.
Israel didn't make those statements. Specific members of radical parties did. Imagine judging a country by their worst people. I bet your country would fare quite badly.
Likud is a mainstream party in Israel. Their prime minister has been making genocidal and atrocious statements for a very long time. Mainstream television in Israel has been in overdrive to secure popular consent for absolutely obscene crimes for more than one and a half year. 80% of israeli jews in Israel approve of genocidal treatment of palestinians in the Gaza strip in the form of ethnic cleansing, while 14% beli…
> genocidal treatment of palestinians in the Gaza strip in the form of ethnic cleansing
Well that made no sense. Genocide is killing people. Ethnic cleansing is moving people. Those are extremely different things. The entire Muslim world has already done a 99% ethnic cleansing of Jews, and where is the outrage? That's 10x the number of people that live in Gaza.
Re: Talkin’ about a Revolution
#114Earlier quoted context omitted.
Likud is a mainstream party in Israel. Their prime minister has been making genocidal and atrocious statements for a very long time. Mainstream television in Israel has been in overdrive to secure popular consent for absolutely obscene crimes for more than one and a half year. 80% of israeli jews in Israel approve of genocidal treatment of palestinians in the Gaza strip in the form of ethnic cleansing, while 14% beli…
> genocidal treatment of palestinians in the Gaza strip in the form of ethnic cleansing Well that made no sense. Genocide is killing people. Ethnic cleansing is moving people. Those are extremely different things. The entire Muslim world has already done a 99% ethnic cleansing of Jews, and where is the outrage? That's 10x the number of people that live in Gaza.
ethnic cleansing
noun
the mass expulsion or killing of members of one ethnic or religious group in an area by those of another
Re: Talkin’ about a Revolution
#115History stopped being useful and became a meaningless recreation when it moved away from the fact that facts are absolute, not relative to the observer.
Re: Talkin’ about a Revolution
#116Earlier quoted context omitted.
Likud is a mainstream party in Israel. Their prime minister has been making genocidal and atrocious statements for a very long time. Mainstream television in Israel has been in overdrive to secure popular consent for absolutely obscene crimes for more than one and a half year. 80% of israeli jews in Israel approve of genocidal treatment of palestinians in the Gaza strip in the form of ethnic cleansing, while 14% beli…
> genocidal treatment of palestinians in the Gaza strip in the form of ethnic cleansing Well that made no sense. Genocide is killing people. Ethnic cleansing is moving people. Those are extremely different things. The entire Muslim world has already done a 99% ethnic cleansing of Jews, and where is the outrage? That's 10x the number of people that live in Gaza.
Huh? I don't think it's the Muslim world that did the cleansing lol. At least in morocco most of the Jewish population left after Israel was founded, after the actual Holocaust in Europe. Not because of ethnic cleansing (though I agree they were treated badly, and I understand why they left).
But according to you the ethnic cleansing of the Jews was okay because it somehow wasn't a genocide right? Otherwise why would you be okay with what Israel is doing right now after saying that what israel is doing is just like the cleansing of the Jews?
And going back to the original point, are you saying that voting against the administration that enabled the gen- I mean ethnic cleansing of your population is somehow voting against your self interests? Talk about complete partisan blindsidedness.
Re: Talkin’ about a Revolution
#117Earlier quoted context omitted.
Extrapolation from what he knows about history. Things looked very bleak right after the French revolution for example. We see our history as a dot, because we live in it. But people in the future will take a more long-term view and might say: oh this was a difficult phase in history.
I just don't agree with any of this. This is a difficult time compared to what? The black plague? WW1? This is the easiest time ever to be alive. I would say on a 200 year time line though, the way the black plague broke the power of the Catholic Church, the internet has broke democracy. The idea democracy is ascendant is pretty delusional IMO. This professor is still living in the unipolar moment that has passed.
The great news is we can break the internet if needed. It will be torn down and chopped up into moderated walled gardens, it's inevitable. Algorithmic rage bait and echo chambers are incompatible with a functioning society.
Re: Talkin’ about a Revolution
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Interested to know why you think Foucault or Lacan are ‘deviants’, do you mean that in the nazi sense, or something else?
Re: Talkin’ about a Revolution
#119History stopped being useful and became a meaningless recreation when it moved away from the fact that facts are absolute, not relative to the observer.
Find me an absolute point, and I'll move the world.
Re: Talkin’ about a Revolution
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That seems a bit unfair to pin it on Hegel. Most of the damage could have been avoided if people like Mao were champions of liberal values - however the fact that he was in a position of power at all was because he came from a rather backwards society that didn't champion liberal values. It is a shame the Chinese Republicans didn't manage to take, but to say there was a lot going on in China at any given moment would…
> That seems a bit unfair to pin it on Hegel. Most of the damage could have been avoided if people like Mao were champions of liberal values. however the fact that he was in a position of power at all was because he came from a rather backwards society that didn't champion liberal values.
Considering that the "liberal values" were the ideology upon which China was previously attacked and destroyed by western powers, and that the KMT, under more liberal values did the Shangai Massacre against the comunists, ending their alliance, this would be improbable. Yeah, history show how progressive is the liberal ideology and their champions...