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James Webb Space Telescope reveals that most galaxies rotate clockwise

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Re: James Webb Space Telescope reveals that most galaxies rotate clockwise

#71

Clockwise relative to what? Does the universe have an "upwards" direction? Or is it just relative to all the other galaxies?

The actual paper makes more sense: "the number of galaxies in that field that rotate in the opposite direction relative to the Milky Way galaxy is ∼50 per cent higher than the number of galaxies that rotate in the same direction relative to the Milky Way."

Re: James Webb Space Telescope reveals that most galaxies rotate clockwise

#72
post #6

If we were on the other side of those galaxies, wouldn't they look like they were spinning counter-clockwise? Or are they measuring spin some other way?

The actual paper makes more sense: "the number of galaxies in that field that rotate in the opposite direction relative to the Milky Way galaxy is ∼50 per cent higher than the number of galaxies that rotate in the same direction relative to the Milky Way."

Re: James Webb Space Telescope reveals that most galaxies rotate clockwise

#73
post #50

This to me indicates the primordial particle was spinning clockwise.

How would you even define what is clockwise or not if there is no other particle as a reference? You can look at it from the other side and say it's spinning in the opposite direction.

I think it's enough to say that it was spinning. There was an imbalance tending toward a direction.

Re: James Webb Space Telescope reveals that most galaxies rotate clockwise

#74
post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Due to an effect called the Doppler shift, astronomers expect galaxies rotating opposite to the Milky Way’s motion to appear brighter, which could explain their overrepresentation in telescopic surveys. I found this a little surprising as well

- "Doppler shift, astronomers expect galaxies rotating opposite to the Milky Way’s motion to appear brighter" But how does that work?

I would assume that they're talking about redshift.

Re: James Webb Space Telescope reveals that most galaxies rotate clockwise

#75
post #9

Potentially a very dumb question, but seeing the difference between cyclones and hurricane on earth (clock-wise, anti-clock-wise)... Does it mean that we are, potentially, on one of two poles(?) of the observable universe, if we're observing most galaxies around us rotating a certain way?

That would be super cool to find out! And then it also begs the question, is there something at the center that unites the two poles? If so then what is it! It would also imply that our whole universe is rotating - the only reason this happens on Earth is because of our planets rotation and the Coriolis effect.

I've been following this news for the past couple of weeks-- in essence your statement is what they are hypothesizing, and that the "something at the center that unites the two poles" might be that we are within a black hole. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_hole_cosmology for the curious.

Re: James Webb Space Telescope reveals that most galaxies rotate clockwise

#79

But rotation direction depends on the observer. If i see galaxy spinning clockwise, this means someone observing galaxy from behind it sees it rotating counter clockwise. So are we just located so in the universe that we see 2/3 spinning clockwise and another counter?

this is a hard one for me to instinctively understand spatially, so I’m imagining myself stood in a room with arrows pointing left and right. if I have 3 arrows facing left in front of me and behind me I have 3 arrows facing left -- from my perspective when I turn around -- then I step past one of the arrows and now I have 2 left facing on one side and then in front of me what was now a left arrow is a right arrow, so now there's 5 lefts and 1 right. so extrapolating that, the observation is possible, but it still doesn't explain the imbalance, does it? you would expect most places in the universe to have a roughly even distribution from any perspective, I think?

Re: James Webb Space Telescope reveals that most galaxies rotate clockwise

#80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That would be super cool to find out! And then it also begs the question, is there something at the center that unites the two poles? If so then what is it! It would also imply that our whole universe is rotating - the only reason this happens on Earth is because of our planets rotation and the Coriolis effect.

I've been following this news for the past couple of weeks-- in essence your statement is what they are hypothesizing, and that the "something at the center that unites the two poles" might be that we are within a black hole. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_hole_cosmology for the curious.

“The universe is an orb and that orb is rotating causing all the other stuff to spiral.” This was a long held theory of mine because I could not understand why a galaxy would spiral.

I think there is a men in black scene, where an alien is rotating the universe globe like a toy they are playing.

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