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James Webb Space Telescope reveals that most galaxies rotate clockwise

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Re: James Webb Space Telescope reveals that most galaxies rotate clockwise

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Complete layman's question: If we would indeed be inside a black hole wouldn't we be able to observe new energy and matter entering? Related question: the horizon of a black hole is expanding when the mass increases. Could this map to the expansion of our universe, which seems to expand faster and faster?

I don’t think we know enough about relative time from outside our universe. Our 15 billion years could be the parent universe’s one second.

Re: James Webb Space Telescope reveals that most galaxies rotate clockwise

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Clockwise relative to what? Does the universe have an "upwards" direction? Or is it just relative to all the other galaxies?

Clockwise relative to our viewpoint, while we would expect that we'd see an equal number rotating in either direction no matter which way we looked or where we were looking from.

Re: James Webb Space Telescope reveals that most galaxies rotate clockwise

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not well versed in celestial mechanics, but I see a lot of "we're in a black hole" comments so far, and I'm super curious as to whether or not we know why black holes prefer a direction of spin. Can you (or anyone, really) shed light on that?

I think it would be more that the entire universe is in a black hole spinning in a certain direction.

Exactly and anything new entering the spinning black hole is likely to inherit its spin.

Re: James Webb Space Telescope reveals that most galaxies rotate clockwise

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Clockwise relative to what? Does the universe have an "upwards" direction? Or is it just relative to all the other galaxies?

My best guess would be using a standard coordinate system such as https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supergalactic_coordinate_sys...

Re: James Webb Space Telescope reveals that most galaxies rotate clockwise

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> Due to an effect called the Doppler shift, astronomers expect galaxies rotating opposite to the Milky Way’s motion to appear brighter How does this work? The page it links to doesn't explain why rotation would matter. Edit: To clarify - one side of the galaxy would be moving towards us, and one away from us, no matter which direction it spins in, so this should not affect the average brightness of the entire galaxy…

One side is moving away from us, the other towards. This means their relative speeds are different, detectably so.

Re: James Webb Space Telescope reveals that most galaxies rotate clockwise

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Everybody here is talking about the black hole hypothesis, but to me it seems that the other explanation, a wrong assumption about the rotation of our own galaxy, is more likely: because it could explain 2 other problems as well. > "The re-calibration of distance measurements can also explain several other unsolved questions in cosmology such as the differences in the expansion rates of the universe and the large gal…

that's trivial to model... if anyone looking for a phd topic that sounds complex but only involves basic trig. (conclusion will probably be a No)

Re: James Webb Space Telescope reveals that most galaxies rotate clockwise

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> This preferred direction of spin might be due to one of two reasons: either our entire universe exists in a black hole, or astronomers have been measuring the universe’s expansion incorrectly This is the subtitle of the article. It’s such a great summary!

I'm not well versed in celestial mechanics, but I see a lot of "we're in a black hole" comments so far, and I'm super curious as to whether or not we know why black holes prefer a direction of spin. Can you (or anyone, really) shed light on that?

Is inside the article:

"A preferred axis in our universe, inherited by the axis of rotation of its parent black hole, might have influenced the rotation dynamics of galaxies, creating the observed clockwise-counterclockwise asymmetry,” Nikodem Poplawski

Re: James Webb Space Telescope reveals that most galaxies rotate clockwise

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> Due to an effect called the Doppler shift, astronomers expect galaxies rotating opposite to the Milky Way’s motion to appear brighter How does this work? The page it links to doesn't explain why rotation would matter. Edit: To clarify - one side of the galaxy would be moving towards us, and one away from us, no matter which direction it spins in, so this should not affect the average brightness of the entire galaxy…

One side is moving away from us, the other towards. This means their relative speeds are different, detectably so.

How are you linking that effect to the spin orientation of the Milky Way galaxy? Where is the all-sky anisotropy coming from?

Re: James Webb Space Telescope reveals that most galaxies rotate clockwise

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Everybody here is talking about the black hole hypothesis, but to me it seems that the other explanation, a wrong assumption about the rotation of our own galaxy, is more likely: because it could explain 2 other problems as well. > "The re-calibration of distance measurements can also explain several other unsolved questions in cosmology such as the differences in the expansion rates of the universe and the large gal…

I don't understand how the 1e-16 Hz rotation of the Milky Way affects how we perceive other spiral galaxies' orientations.

>Due to an effect called the Doppler shift, astronomers expect galaxies rotating opposite to the Milky Way’s motion to appear brighter, which could explain their overrepresentation in telescopic surveys.

I found this a little surprising as well

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