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Talkin’ about a Revolution

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Re: Talkin’ about a Revolution

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The key argument I read here is that, due to specialisation, academic philosophy is currently unfit to apprehend today's problems. It is no longer capable of incorporating politics, and politics itself has escaped rational discourse. Historians are enjoying some new limelight, and popular value-revisionism is in the air, at least if Lucy Worsley's BBC series is anything to go by.

The question is: "What is progress, really?"

Re: Talkin’ about a Revolution

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post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some fantasy about how millions of leftists voters either boycotted the election or voted for Trump because of Biden’s position on Gaza. Complete nonsense of course, but it’s a popular conspiracy theory among certain democrats circles. It was also funny to see democrats suddenly realizing that Arab Americans vote republican. They always have and they always will. Just like how Latino Americans, and generally most imm…

The left pretty much falls into the same trap all around the world. Its almost funny to watch when a leftist realises that immigrants are right-leaning. The typical reaction is to fall back to elitism and claim those immigrants must be stupid somehow.

Not stupid, just lacking class consciousness

Re: Talkin’ about a Revolution

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post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's more about how the US handled the situation in a country with 3% of the population and the impact of that on either marginal voters or voters for whom this was a major issue.

> how the US handled the situation in a country As if the US were responsible for the whole world. Hey Megalomania, nice to meet you.

The point is how the US government handled the matter, and that the votes were affected by that (at least that's the claim).

The size of the Gaza conflict in absolute terms is entirely irrelevant, it easily could've been only 1 person, dominating the media.

Re: Talkin’ about a Revolution

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post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The left pretty much falls into the same trap all around the world. Its almost funny to watch when a leftist realises that immigrants are right-leaning. The typical reaction is to fall back to elitism and claim those immigrants must be stupid somehow.

Not stupid, just lacking class consciousness

I would love if the public discourse would allow for more diversity of opinions. Unfortunately, where I come from, the left has simplified the rhetoric to "If you are of a different opinion then we are, you are either badly educated (read, stupid) or a nazi." Unfortunately, this elitist attitude has only contributed to the divide of the people.

Re: Talkin’ about a Revolution

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This tired old contention that some great historical thinker is somehow single-handedly responsible for the fall of civilisation is nothing more than railing against intellect itself.

My conjecture isn't Hegel is single-handedly responsible for the fall of civilisation. After all I don't have a reason to think he intended that, nor do I think civilisation will necasarily fall. Most villains of the thought, ideologues and philosophers are basing their operas on Hegel's.

All I am saying Hegel established a framework which eased the works of some scum.

Re: Talkin’ about a Revolution

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post #19

The world gets both better and worse. it is something that I regularly get voted down for saying here, but IMO the west is unduly pessimist because it had a golden age from winning the cold war until the late 2000s, took an overly optimistic view of the future and the inevitability of progress (remember "the end of history") and cannot cope with things going back to normal. Things get better, sometimes they get worse…

>and cannot cope with things going back to normal. how do we define "normal" for society?

Very loosely?

There really is no normal - things change over time. It would be more accurate to say it was the end of an period of unusual stability and security.

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