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Talkin’ about a Revolution

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Re: Talkin’ about a Revolution

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Post by suraci »

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> Mentions the war in Ukraine but does not mention the genocide

This is something I noticed a long time ago.

for example, here:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42790465

The author collected the reasons why Americans did not vote and analyzed all the not-about-genocide reasons, topics deemed inappropriate for discussion were self-censored by the author

that's a very interesting phenomenon, in Westworld, the hosts defensively disregard any evidence that challenges their true existence to prevent their worldview from collapsing:

"doesn't look like anything to me"

truly a great series

Re: Talkin’ about a Revolution

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Post by ggm »

dudefeliciano wrote: post #3
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How did it contribute to bringing trump to power?

It altered voting intent by both Jewish and Islamic groups in ways which were net negative for Harris. The margin of error in voting was less than the number of votes swayed.

All of this is out weighed by the "didn't vote" but democrat didn't vote was larger than before. If this issue stimulated a vote boycott it could have affected democrat voters more.

Re: Talkin’ about a Revolution

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Post by suraci »

dudefeliciano wrote: post #3
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How did it contribute to bringing trump to power?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42793303

Here's a quote from the poll: 以下是民意调查中的一段引述：

   When Biden 2020 voters cast a ballot for someone besides Harris in 2024 were asked “Which one of the following issues was MOST important in deciding your vote?” they selected:
   
   29% - [■■■■■■■■■■]
   24% - The economy
   12% - Medicare and Social Security
   11% - Immigration and border security
   10% - Healthcare
   9% - Abortion policy
   5% - Don’t know

Re: Talkin’ about a Revolution

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Post by lynx97 »

worldsayshi wrote: post #6

> frightened into rationality An oxymoron if I ever heard one. To become rational means letting go of fears (to a large extent). I fear that one reason we fail to act is that we are guided by fear. Fear makes us focus on the wrong things. And I fear that in a civilized society fear becomes a self fulfilling prophecy. Fear makes us obsess about the problem and how to avoid it in the very narrow and short term. It does…

I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past, I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.

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Post by eddythompson80 »

dudefeliciano wrote: post #3
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How did it contribute to bringing trump to power?

Some fantasy about how millions of leftists voters either boycotted the election or voted for Trump because of Biden’s position on Gaza. Complete nonsense of course, but it’s a popular conspiracy theory among certain democrats circles.

It was also funny to see democrats suddenly realizing that Arab Americans vote republican. They always have and they always will. Just like how Latino Americans, and generally most immigrants, will always vote republican too. Arab Americans are very culturally conservative. They would rather see a 100 Gazas than accepting that 2 gay men can get married.

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Post by Ozzie_osman »

lynx97 wrote: post #5
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So a country with 3% of the population of the US can throw the US into lawlessness or transform the US into a dictatorship? Pretty weak structure if that actually works.

It's more about how the US handled the situation in a country with 3% of the population and the impact of that on either marginal voters or voters for whom this was a major issue.

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Post by graemep »

The world gets both better and worse. it is something that I regularly get voted down for saying here, but IMO the west is unduly pessimist because it had a golden age from winning the cold war until the late 2000s, took an overly optimistic view of the future and the inevitability of progress (remember "the end of history") and cannot cope with things going back to normal.

Things get better, sometimes they get worse. Generally people are better off materially than they have ever been, but people do not change all that much morally.

Re: Talkin’ about a Revolution

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Post by lynx97 »

Ozzie_osman wrote: post #16
lynx97 wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So a country with 3% of the population of the US can throw the US into lawlessness or transform the US into a dictatorship? Pretty weak structure if that actually works.

It's more about how the US handled the situation in a country with 3% of the population and the impact of that on either marginal voters or voters for whom this was a major issue.

> how the US handled the situation in a country

As if the US were responsible for the whole world. Hey Megalomania, nice to meet you.

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