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How each pillar of the First Amendment is under attack

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Re: How each pillar of the First Amendment is under attack

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I can’t remember anyone respecting mainstream US news for the last 30+ years. Aren’t most news agencies, directly or indirectly, owned by BlackRock, State Street, or the Vanguard Group? That’s a real question.

Those companies run ETFs. They “own” lots of companies because they sell broad market funds to basically every passive investor in America.

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Did people get deported for that? The article has plenty of examples that go well beyond calling things “disinformation”

Wrong question.

The question is "were peoples civil rights ignored because of that?"

In both cases: YES.

Re: How each pillar of the First Amendment is under attack

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What Brian and a lot of the commenters here need to realize is that online outrage does not help progressive causes in the slightest.

While the examples in his article are valid & concerning, especially as talks of a third Trump term have started, I truly can't see anyone changing their mind because the response to it has been completely ineffective and tone-deaf:

Instead of a solid, modern, coherent plan to keep the democratic party alive in a time of populism and radicalization in response to a crumbling economy and cronyism, it has solely been a "look at all the bad stuff Trump is doing!" and "oh me oh my how outrageous!" which does nothing but fall on deaf ears after 2020.

This is because most of the people writing these "why you should be outraged" posts are in a bubble of educated, traditional-news-consuming, upper-middle class skilled workers -- all groups that are very quickly falling out of power and favor with the majority of the population.

I hope the democratic party finds a way to become a real contender again. While not everyone on the right is a boogeyman, there are plenty of Project 2025 supporters, much worse than anyone we know about, who will steamroll this country if left unchecked. If the right doesn't have a viable opposition party with strong messaging, we're in for a bumpy ride.

Re: How each pillar of the First Amendment is under attack

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Who's making the determination something is disinformation? You? No thanks. Reference Wuhan Labs.

I mean, a lot of very smart people told me that you shouldn’t be allowed to say things like “masks don’t work”. They also said hate speech isn’t free speech. Who am I to argue? Personally I found everything in the article to be ludicrous and to have Jack-all to do with the First Amendment, but I am not very smart.

Withholding federal funds from colleges for not cracking down hard enough on speech the government doesn’t like isn’t related to the first amendment? Or it is but it’s ludicrous?

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It's an issue we're seeing all around the West - previously centre-left parties unfortunately were cowed into supporting 'soft-neoliberalism' over the last 30-40 years, and now that's shown to not improve the living standards of the many (but works amazingly for the wealthy), voters are looking for anything that looks different than the status-quo. Unfortunately that plus a bit of culture war drives them into the pop…

> that plus a bit of culture war drives them into the populist right

And the establishment refusing to run new candidates. If there is a single person to blame for Trump 2.0, it’s Biden.

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He can't run again.

He's stated he is contemplating getting Vance to run, then for Vance to step down in favor of Trump. > Trump, 78, said in the interview that he was serious about seeking a third term in office. > "A lot of people want me to do it," Trump said, according to NBC News. "But we have – my thinking is, we have a long way to go. I'm focused on the current." > When asked about specific plans for seeking a third term, Trump c…

That plan fails the requirement that to run for Vice president you have to be eligible for president. But sure, Trump trying to pull what Putin did with Medvedev in the 2000s seems about right for a wannabe dictator.

Re: How each pillar of the First Amendment is under attack

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Government censors and preferential treatment are no match for a social network deciding what to allow on their platforms. Not even close. One is a free market and free association (you know there are many alternative platforms these days?). The other is serfdom.

Don't pretend the government didn't use its power and influence to pressure ostensibly private social networks to censor true information and sincerely held opinions. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/zuckerberg-says-the-wh...

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The people fawning and the people rejecting the Founders' intentions are two separate groups of people. Media is the practice of including and excluding voices, and there are distinct trends over time of representing one or another set of voices.

> The people fawning and the people rejecting the Founders' intentions are two separate groups of people. The same people supporting Trump, from national thought leaders like Heritage and the Federalist society, to Murdoch publications (Fos, WSJ), to everyday people on social media have long pushed hard for expanded Second Amendment rights, expended freedom of religion which outweighs all other considerations and rig…

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Re: How each pillar of the First Amendment is under attack

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post #124

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He can't run again.

He's stated he is contemplating getting Vance to run, then for Vance to step down in favor of Trump. > Trump, 78, said in the interview that he was serious about seeking a third term in office. > "A lot of people want me to do it," Trump said, according to NBC News. "But we have – my thinking is, we have a long way to go. I'm focused on the current." > When asked about specific plans for seeking a third term, Trump c…

> He's stated he is contemplating getting Vance to run, then for Vance to step down in favor of Trump

Technically illegal due to the Twelfth Amendment: “no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States” [1].

Simpler: run two randos, have the House choose Trump as Speaker [2], have the randos resign [3].

[1] https://constitution.congress.gov/constitution/amendment-12/

[2] https://www.cbsnews.com/news/house-speaker-non-member-of-con...

[3] https://www.usa.gov/presidential-succession

Re: How each pillar of the First Amendment is under attack

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This is a brilliant article because it is summarising how bad it is. They don't want you to know how bad! Lots of paper cuts and hopefully no one sees the amputation. We need one on attack on working class including all the loss of services esp. education and inflation caused by tariffs.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2025/03/donald-trump-new... Everyone should at least watch this video. Taken in America. "Land of the free." That this is only one of many such videos is terrifying if you know the history of fascist regimes. I hope everyone here is familiar with the "first they came for the communists..." poem.

It has started. The Posobiec book (foreword by Steve Bannon) makes the case that anyone to the left of Mussolini is a "secret communist revolutionary" and rationalizes doing anything to "crush" us.

https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/unhumans

This is a popular book. I found my own mother reading it. I took the title at face value at first and found the skull disturbing but not threatening what with not being a communist or anything close to it. But then I started reading and I realized that it's not a matter of if they pull the trigger but when, and when they pull the trigger that they would be completely comfortable calling my mild liberal beliefs communist, and that my mother would probably believe them as they stripped me of citizenship and sent me to a labor camp in El Salvador.

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