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How each pillar of the First Amendment is under attack

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Re: How each pillar of the First Amendment is under attack

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Food for thought: elimination of basic rights impacts all citizens regardless of their political affiliation.

Similarly, expanding executive powers benefits whoever has the position, not just the guy who is in there right now.

The self-defeating behavior of the legislative branch, across both parties, for decades led to the risks going up invisibly. And it turns out, risks usually go up without people noticing.

Re: How each pillar of the First Amendment is under attack

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post #53

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He can't run again.

He can be VP and then succeed by the president stepping down.

The 12th Amendment disagrees:

> But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.

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If Trump wins the next election, take that as the signal of the point of no return. It happened to Rome, it can happen to America.

We are already long past the point of no return. He is the manifestation of a popular will. Even if he vanished tomorrow, those voters will remain. They will not be daunted by an electoral setback. They control the Supreme Court, and will for decades. They control a majority of state legislatures -- which control how voting and districting work. We've been past the point of no return since 2016. If you still had hope…

They were barely more than half of the voters, and did not represent a single unified ideology. This doesn't mean they won't vote against their own interests again.

Re: How each pillar of the First Amendment is under attack

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> the very people who perpetuated suppression of legitimate dissent and honest truth whine now that their free speech rights are being somehow abrogated

Are you implying that Brian Krebs perpetuated suppression of legitimate dissent? Care to link it?

Re: How each pillar of the First Amendment is under attack

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I think this is a foolish belief. > The third presidential term of Franklin D. Roosevelt began on January 20, 1941, when he was once again inaugurated as the 32nd president of the United States, and the fourth term of his presidency ended with his death on April 12, 1945 There's already precedent.

The 22nd amendment was passed after that though. FDR was seen as getting America out of the Great Depression and navigating America through WW2 successfully. Oh and alcohol became legal again so you could celebrate the roaring manufacturing economy and military victories with a beer. Trump is no FDR.

He said today he was serious about seeking a 3rd term and has multiple ways to do so... it would be absolutely foolish to pretend like 'norms' or the Supreme Court would constrain him.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-third-te...

Re: How each pillar of the First Amendment is under attack

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Trump had allegedly fired people responsible for FOIA but at the same time we are finally seeing documents that the DOJ and FBI have been slow walking for almost 8 years or longer. Some examples, file metadata for Seth Rich's laptop, and obviously files related to the JFK assassination.

A bunch of papers related to the JFK assassination that say Lee Harvey Oswald did it and acted alone. Who cares?

This certainly isn't something that means you should ignore the fact that people are being abducted by plainclothes agents who refuse to identify themselves, and sent to Salvadorean prison camps without any chance for appeal.

Re: How each pillar of the First Amendment is under attack

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Disinformation is not free speech.

Who's making the determination something is disinformation? You? No thanks. Reference Wuhan Labs.

I mean, a lot of very smart people told me that you shouldn’t be allowed to say things like “masks don’t work”. They also said hate speech isn’t free speech. Who am I to argue?

Personally I found everything in the article to be ludicrous and to have Jack-all to do with the First Amendment, but I am not very smart.

Re: How each pillar of the First Amendment is under attack

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I can’t remember anyone respecting mainstream US news for the last 30+ years. Aren’t most news agencies, directly or indirectly, owned by BlackRock, State Street, or the Vanguard Group? That’s a real question.

> Aren’t most news agencies, directly or indirectly, owned by BlackRock, State Street, or the Vanguard Group? That’s a real question

It’s a stupid question easily dismissed with a modicum of research. (Most papers aren’t public.)

Re: How each pillar of the First Amendment is under attack

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If Trump wins the next election, take that as the signal of the point of no return. It happened to Rome, it can happen to America.

We are already long past the point of no return. He is the manifestation of a popular will. Even if he vanished tomorrow, those voters will remain. They will not be daunted by an electoral setback. They control the Supreme Court, and will for decades. They control a majority of state legislatures -- which control how voting and districting work. We've been past the point of no return since 2016. If you still had hope…

> It gets monotonically worse from here, and there is no longer anything we can do about it.

For decades now, government policy has had approximately nothing to do with the will of the public. (https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/perspectives-on-poli...)

This situation is now being corrected. Anyone who sees this as a catastrophe, as getting "monotonically worse", is no fan of a republican form of government

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