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Re: Blue95: a desktop for your childhood home's computer room

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post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's interesting especially because it seems like companies today pour tens of millions into "accessibility", but I never see a thing's usability in terms of simple and easy-to-do-what-I-want UX fall in to the same category.

One is required by law and/or contract terms, the other is just nice to have.

And that is why we can’t have nice things, apparently.

Re: Blue95: a desktop for your childhood home's computer room

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post #5

This looks nice and easy to use. My hypothesis is today's "modern" OS user interfaces are objectively worse from a usability perspective, obfuscating key functionality behind layers of confusing menus. It reminds me of these "OS popularity since the 70s" time lapse views: https://youtube.com/watch?v=cTKhqtll5cQ The dominance of Windows is crazy, even today, Mac desktops and laptops are comparatively niche

I got in an argument with an accessibility engineer about this recently... The whole UI as branding thing has utterly killed usability.

It's also repeating what the hellscape of inconsistent skinned UIs did in the late 90s and early 2000s. People are looking back at those times with a rather selective memory.

Re: Blue95: a desktop for your childhood home's computer room

#123
post #5

This looks nice and easy to use. My hypothesis is today's "modern" OS user interfaces are objectively worse from a usability perspective, obfuscating key functionality behind layers of confusing menus. It reminds me of these "OS popularity since the 70s" time lapse views: https://youtube.com/watch?v=cTKhqtll5cQ The dominance of Windows is crazy, even today, Mac desktops and laptops are comparatively niche

When I used XFCE as my daily driver, I once tried installing Chicago95 just for nostalgia and it stick as my daily driver for almost a year! The UI is less distracting than modern UIs and there's something to it that makes it easier to just know which window is open over which window that's lacking in modern UIs (I think it's the over-reliance on soft shadows and the borderless windows). Eventually, I stopped using i…

I also dailied it on XFCE. The UI was very utilitarian and purposeful. I suppose aesthetically it is unimpressive and not streamlined, but it serves the purpose of being a good interface to do a task.

Same as you say, people have asked me a lot about it and even asked me if I could set it up for them. The theme is evangelizing Linux a little bit, and that is interesting. In the right hands, these UI principles could convert many people to some product.

P.S. You can now change the grey-ish look with Win95-style theming support. I've not used it, but here's more info: https://github.com/grassmunk/Chicago95/blob/master/Plus/READ...

Re: Blue95: a desktop for your childhood home's computer room

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Three modern desktop environments that I use: - Windows 10/11. Especially in 11, it's easiest just to type the start of an app's name into the search box. As opposed to the two clicks it takes to get to the "traditional" menu where you still have to scroll to find it. - Gnome (only on fresh Linux installs, usually replaced with Mate pretty soon). Has a smartphone-style app grid, but here, too, its quickest just to ty…

The decline in usability and organization of the Windows start menu over the years has been frankly staggering. Whenever I see screenshots of the old menu I get pangs of nostalgia.

I think they drank the Macintosh kool-aid and expect you to have all your commonly used apps pinned. In Win11 this even looks sort of like a Mac dock. Still made no sense to ruin the usability of the start menu which they invented.

Re: Blue95: a desktop for your childhood home's computer room

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This looks wonderful to use. Is there video playback?

I’ve been thinking lots about the YouTube algorithm, how it’s based on engagement, not educational value, and how it’s such a huge missed opportunity for our kids.

So I’ve been building my own YouTube exploration app, for my own kids.

Email me if you’re interested in testing.

jim.jones1@gmail.com

Re: Blue95: a desktop for your childhood home's computer room

#127
post #9

This still remains the absolute pinnacle of cohesive desktop environment design in my books.

"I've come up with a set of rules that describe our reactions to technologies: 1. Anything that is in the world when you’re born is normal and ordinary and is just a natural part of the way the world works. 2. Anything that's invented between when you’re fifteen and thirty-five is new and exciting and revolutionary and you can probably get a career in it. 3. Anything invented after you're thirty-five is against the natural order of things." -- Douglas Adams

Re: Blue95: a desktop for your childhood home's computer room

#128
post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Computing is largely a cargo cult thing these days. The problem is that the interfaces these bootleg skins draw "inspiration" from were designed on the back of millions of pre-inflationary dollars' R&D from only the best at Golden-Age IBM, Microsoft, Apple, etc.. BeOS, OS/2, Windows 95-2000 do not look the way they do because it looks good, they look the way they do because it works good, countless man hours went int…

>they look the way they do because it works good In modern times telemetry can show how well new designs work. The industry never forgot how to measure and do user research for ui changes. We've only gotten better at it.

That assumes that they are using the telemetry to create a better product for the user rather than the developer.

Re: Blue95: a desktop for your childhood home's computer room

#129
post #5

This looks nice and easy to use. My hypothesis is today's "modern" OS user interfaces are objectively worse from a usability perspective, obfuscating key functionality behind layers of confusing menus. It reminds me of these "OS popularity since the 70s" time lapse views: https://youtube.com/watch?v=cTKhqtll5cQ The dominance of Windows is crazy, even today, Mac desktops and laptops are comparatively niche

> The dominance of Windows is crazy, even today, Mac desktops and laptops are comparatively niche

I was actually surprised that macOS/Linux/ChromeOS together are >20% of all desktop/laptops. I would have expected Microsoft machines to be closer to 90% than 80%.

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