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Can Earth's rotation generate power? Physicists divided over controversial claim

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Re: Can Earth's rotation generate power? Physicists divided over controversial claim

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My Stupid Question, please don't laugh: If you did this on a massive enough scale, to generate serious amounts of power, would that accidentally slow the Earth's rotation down over time?

They are one step ahead of you. :-)

"We previously showed that even in an extreme scenario where our civilization somehow would obtain all its electrical energy from the effect described here, Earth’s rotation would slow by <1 ms per decade [2]."

Re: Can Earth's rotation generate power? Physicists divided over controversial claim

#12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No because of conservation of angular momentum. Maybe it would cool the Earth's interior faster than otherwise though. It's heat flow from the inside to the outside that drives the fluid flows in the mantle and generates the magnetic field.

Earth's rotation has been slowing down despite principle of conservation of angular momentum, at about 2 mille-sec/century. Dinos had an hour shorter days than we do now. I'm not an EE, but isn't this related to Tesla's last invention which bankrupted him - I believe he was working on electricity generation from thin air.

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Re: Can Earth's rotation generate power? Physicists divided over controversial claim

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Current = 25.4 ± 1.5 nA, Voltage = 17.3 ± 1.5 µV. Making total power for the 30cm shell = 0.44 picowatts.

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I don't see a problem with the LLM answer. The field near an FM station can reach 100mV or more. The maximum safe exposure levels for general public at 100MHz is 30V/m according to standards.

Re: Can Earth's rotation generate power? Physicists divided over controversial claim

#15

My Stupid Question, please don't laugh: If you did this on a massive enough scale, to generate serious amounts of power, would that accidentally slow the Earth's rotation down over time?

Alternatively, we could speed up the Earth! Let's get rid of those pesky leap seconds!

Re: Can Earth's rotation generate power? Physicists divided over controversial claim

#16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No because of conservation of angular momentum. Maybe it would cool the Earth's interior faster than otherwise though. It's heat flow from the inside to the outside that drives the fluid flows in the mantle and generates the magnetic field.

Earth's rotation has been slowing down despite principle of conservation of angular momentum, at about 2 mille-sec/century. Dinos had an hour shorter days than we do now. I'm not an EE, but isn't this related to Tesla's last invention which bankrupted him - I believe he was working on electricity generation from thin air.

It's slowing down mostly because of drag induced by tides, which involve the sun and the moon. The total system including the earth, moon, sun and everything else does conserve angular momentum.

But this paper seems to imply that Earth, isolated from evening else in the solar system, could be made to slow down. This does seem like a violation of conservation of angular momentum...

Re: Can Earth's rotation generate power? Physicists divided over controversial claim

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This is really cool. Question for EEs / Material Scientists reading the paper - they mention you could shrink the cylinders and get the same voltage provided a "suitable material" could be found. Any back of the envelope or explanation of materials needed to make these cylinders say 1/1000th their current size? That'd be an extremely useful amount of energy when put into say a 1000x parallel array.

It seems hard to imagine that this kind of shrink-down could go on forever, but on the other hand, the earth is just sort of hurtling us around with great energy while it rotates.

Re: Can Earth's rotation generate power? Physicists divided over controversial claim

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My Stupid Question, please don't laugh: If you did this on a massive enough scale, to generate serious amounts of power, would that accidentally slow the Earth's rotation down over time?

fast forward a hundert years and there is a massive culture war between the "rotation slowdown deniers" and people religiously buying "rotation friendly" products.
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