> everyone knows all the alls on your phone On Android phones. iPhone doesn’t have this privacy deficiency.
On iOS it's kinda worse in some ways. If you enroll into a company MDM they can see all your apps. On Android if they use the work profile (which is the standard method these days) they can only see the apps inside there.
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Re: Everyone knows all the apps on your phone
#92> everyone knows all the alls on your phone On Android phones. iPhone doesn’t have this privacy deficiency.
On iOS it's kinda worse in some ways. If you enroll into a company MDM they can see all your apps. On Android if they use the work profile (which is the standard method these days) they can only see the apps inside there.
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#93> everyone knows all the alls on your phone On Android phones. iPhone doesn’t have this privacy deficiency.
Right, only Apple knows, but it’s ok, they’re the good guys
What evidence is there/can you present that Apple is making use of this information in a negative way?
How can Apple not have a list of installed apps on your phone while maintaining basic functionality (automatic updates, reinstalling apps from backup, etc)?
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How does that address the problem? Does F-Droid do some sort of additional screening to keep out apps that do this?
packages on f-droid list all required permissions explicitly, and the mentioned permission seems to be listed as "query all packages: Allows an app to see all installed packages.". It doesn't mark the app as having "anti-features", but you can at least make a more informed decision this way.
I suppose they must be too busy ticking off "anti-features" like "can communicate with non-Free services" to notice that sort of thing.
(No, really. F-Droid will tag applications like a Mastodon client as having "anti-feature: Non-Free Network Services", presumably because it can be configured to connect to servers running non-free software?)
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Thanks for the link, seems like the loophole is already there since the introduction of the package visibility restriction, and almost everyone and their mother knows how to bypass this restriction. > Google refuses to patch this While I don't believe Google engineers are not aware of this widely used loophole, do you have any source that they refused to fix it?
That loophole was published 5 years ago, it hasnt been fixed since. Do you need someone from Google to explicitly write an official note, notarized, indicating they are refusing to fix it?
Google addressed similar isolation concerns (without breaking a tonne of APIs in incompatible ways) with Private Space and Work Profile: https://source.android.com/docs/security/features/private-sp...
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#97>For extremely specific use cases such as file managers, browsers or antivirus apps, Google grants an exception by allowing QUERY_ALL_PACKAGES permission, which provides full visibility into installed apps. 'Extreme' my a*. My bank app has this permission, as well as my camera app, contacts app, clock app, Google Home, and on and on. My bank app was moved to an old iPad because of this.
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#99Earlier quoted context omitted.
First, f-droid only accepts OSS apps, so the incentives for spyware is simply not there. Second, anti-features are explicitly marked on f-droid. Third, f-droid apps are curated like a very rigorous linux repo.
Being an OSS app is not sufficient protection. Most OSS apps aren't terribly misbehaved, but some are. Being OSS in and of itself is not anything like a guarantee with this sort of thing. > Third, f-droid apps are curated like a very rigorous linux repo. Yes, I know. My question is is this one of the things they're screening for?
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Speaking of iPhone, Im curious about something. On occasion, I log into the [former] bird app using the web app because it's enough to check up on some key follows. Recently, they released a major update to their LLM feature and I installed the app to check it out. While I had the app installed, every time I checked the mobile website there was a large banner directing me to go to the app. Ad blockers and distraction…
Apple calls these Smart App Banners. Webkit cooperates with iOS to present them according to a meta tag in the page: https://developer.apple.com/documentation/webkit/promoting-a... You can get rid of them with the Unsmartifier extension. https://old.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/q55753/unsmartifier_... The StopTheMadness extension can also remove them (among many other things... this extension is a must have for me): h…
JFC. Are they disabled if you ask for the desktop site?