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4chan: Beyond one billion

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Re: 4chan: Beyond one billion

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While I no longer visit 4chan regularly, I love its extensive influence on human society. * lolcats * rage comics * anonymous * a lot of the 1% movement * getting random people in jail because they think animal cruelty is funny * making Moot TIME's person of the year and getting him a TED talk -> http://www.ted.com/talks/christopher_m00t_poole_the_case_for... While most of what goes on there hinges somewhere between…

Influence on Western Culture? Why don't you go read the news, the Patterson break-up has had more of an effect on Western culture then 4Chan could ever hope to succeed. Some people spend way too much time on the internet; I can guarantee you that 99% of America, has no clue what 4Chan, Rage Comics, lolcats is. Anonymous and the 1% movement (but you may have to say Occupy Wall Street to the 3 million remaining people)…

The thing is though, basically everyone worldwide who has been to university in the last few years has seen them and knows about them, and has laughed at them.

When those people grow up, and achieve control over the popular media, suddenly we'll start seeing references to this period of culture in the new media of the day. It'll be seen as much more important than it is now as well, as the educated middle classes exert their control over cultural memory.

Also at some point the children of todays students will likely decide that memes and early internet culture in general is retro, and it'll all be vogue again, and we can complain that it's not as good when its holographic or something.

This can be seen in music. Jazz used to be a scary sound that would cause your daughters to start having sex with black people, now it's the height of sophistication. At some point in the last 15 years hip-hop became an art form in the eyes of the media elite. The current resurgence in commercial rave music is partly to do with the veterans of the 90s scene being in a position to start large businesses. At some point in the future the extreme, venetian snares end of electronica will likely be looked upon as jazz/classical is now.

Re: 4chan: Beyond one billion

#92
post #86

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I'm sure more people read celebrity news than read Shakespeare, but which has a bigger influence on culture?

That's a pretty brash claim. Shakespeare's been around for centuries, and has most likely been read or seen by more people in the sum of that time than celebrity news.

You forget, more people have lived since the end of the second world war, than lived between then and Shakespeare's time. If you also take into account the rise in global literacy, far more people will have read celebrity news than Shakespeare.

Re: 4chan: Beyond one billion

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post #76
post #34

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Rage comics are just "MS paint comics" with recurring characters and a set format- which makes sense given that reddit is a less chaotic alternative to 4chan. Of course, the chaotic nature of 4chan is not a bad thing. Also, the memes that originate elsewhere are still made popular due to 4chan's influence. e.g. "trollface" apparently comes from deviantart but is commonly used in rage comics (I think).

The trollface is from a 4chan comic. The creator posted it to DeviantART too, but it's not really "from" there. http://whynne.deviantart.com/art/Comic-Trolls-98357844 There are a few similar comic artists. Notably 3-Angled-Blue, who drew some amazing MS Paint comics that are slowly being made into rage comic templates.

Thanks. I had done a quick search beforehand to see its origin because I knew it was used in rage comics. Upvoted.

Re: 4chan: Beyond one billion

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post #87

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But why would I go out of my way to visit a place that has that stuff on it in the first place? So I can be associated with sociopaths? I'll pass and get my content elsewhere.

What do you mean by "place"? And why would you be associated with people on the boards you don't visit? (Also basically everyone on those boards are anonymous so you won't have an identity to "associate".)

Try not to think so hard.

Re: 4chan: Beyond one billion

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post #87

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What do you mean by "place"? And why would you be associated with people on the boards you don't visit? (Also basically everyone on those boards are anonymous so you won't have an identity to "associate".)

Try not to think so hard.

I think your definition of place is very odd.

Re: 4chan: Beyond one billion

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I think your definition of place is very odd.

You've never heard a website referred to as a place? You need to get out more.

Sure, but I still don't understand your reason. Do you avoid using Google because there's disturbing content on it? or Wikipedia because sociopaths also visit it? or Netflix because it's hosted on the same platform as a bunch of malware? or bittorrent because it's used for copyright infringement?

Why are you avoiding parts of 4chan because you don't like other parts?

Re: 4chan: Beyond one billion

#99
post #15

I would be surprised if there wasn't an overlap between HN and 4chan (same as with SA). Being run in diametrically opposed way it fills its role rather well, I think. There is no reputation system, no limits, no censorship, etc.. This means it produces many utterly vile posts - but all of them are true expressions of people as they are, not as they pretend to be. I think people often don't appreciate this. It's not j…

> all of them are true expressions of people as they are, not as they pretend to be.

/b/ and 4chan in general is vile because it is supposed to be vile. They are supposed to rip into everything, that's their schtick. It's a series of one-upmanship attempts all for teh lulz. It basically is just people being dicks on the internet. Every once and a while a discussion breaks out.

The 'truth' about 4chan comes out in their hatred of animal cruelty, how much of a fanbase MLP found there, the beginning of the Chantology group and basically the acts of social conscience that burst from there. These things are diametrically opposed to the vileness of 4chan, yet they started there. The horribleness of 4chan is the majority pretending.

Re: 4chan: Beyond one billion

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post #83
post #23

While I no longer visit 4chan regularly, I love its extensive influence on human society. * lolcats * rage comics * anonymous * a lot of the 1% movement * getting random people in jail because they think animal cruelty is funny * making Moot TIME's person of the year and getting him a TED talk -> http://www.ted.com/talks/christopher_m00t_poole_the_case_for... While most of what goes on there hinges somewhere between…

> getting him a TED talk That was actually me. I suggested it to Chris Anderson originally. (Also, the memes=funny pictures thing drives me nuts. But then again I started memepool.com in 1998 or so...)

I <3 you Joshua!!!
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