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How's Solar City doing now? Not sure the court was capable of that judgement.

And what happened to Tesla solar roofs? Haven’t heard about those since like 2020. Who actually has one? And Tesla trucks? And full self-driving? And robotaxis? And the private venture around the moon? It’s like everyone just forgets Musk’s announcements that never get delivered on.

Aren't Cyber trucks by Tesla? And FSD is basically here which means robotaxis are basically here. Now there are just regulatory hurdles and the long tail.

Re: xAI has acquired X, xAI now valued at $80B

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And what happened to Tesla solar roofs? Haven’t heard about those since like 2020. Who actually has one? And Tesla trucks? And full self-driving? And robotaxis? And the private venture around the moon? It’s like everyone just forgets Musk’s announcements that never get delivered on.

Aren't Cyber trucks by Tesla? And FSD is basically here which means robotaxis are basically here. Now there are just regulatory hurdles and the long tail.

"Basically here" and "actually here" tend to be decades apart ... especially in Musks case. Tho, I think another company can be actually capable to make them actually working.

Re: xAI has acquired X, xAI now valued at $80B

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And what happened to Tesla solar roofs? Haven’t heard about those since like 2020. Who actually has one? And Tesla trucks? And full self-driving? And robotaxis? And the private venture around the moon? It’s like everyone just forgets Musk’s announcements that never get delivered on.

Aren't Cyber trucks by Tesla? And FSD is basically here which means robotaxis are basically here. Now there are just regulatory hurdles and the long tail.

He made much the same claim 6 years ago: https://www.inverse.com/science/55141-elon-musk-autonomous-d...

"""“I feel very confident predicting autonomous robo taxis for Tesla by next year. Not in all jurisdictions, because we won’t have regulatory approval everywhere. But we will have regulatory approval at least at some point next year,” Musk said toward the end of the presentation. “From our standpoint, if you fast forward a year, maybe a year in three months, but next year for sure, we will have over a million robo taxis on the road.”""" - Musk, April 2019

Re: xAI has acquired X, xAI now valued at $80B

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>> He literally commands the most powerful military apparatus the world has ever seen. > That’s also disputable Why? Which military has ever existed that would have a chance against the current US military?

Taliban. Conventional armies have a hard stand against partisans. The US in Vietnam and Russia and the US in Afghanistan.

So the taliban or the Vietcong were more powerful than the US military? They won because they were defending their own country which gives them higher motivation and an advantage as defenders. If you look at the military itself, the US was always much more powerful.

Re: xAI has acquired X, xAI now valued at $80B

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post #744

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And what happened to Tesla solar roofs? Haven’t heard about those since like 2020. Who actually has one? And Tesla trucks? And full self-driving? And robotaxis? And the private venture around the moon? It’s like everyone just forgets Musk’s announcements that never get delivered on.

Aren't Cyber trucks by Tesla? And FSD is basically here which means robotaxis are basically here. Now there are just regulatory hurdles and the long tail.

In what sense of the word "basically" are the FSD and robotaxis "basically" here? Tesla FSD is a level 2 autonomic system that requires constant supervision, robotaxis would require level 4/5 autonomy. That's not even close to becoming reality.

Re: xAI has acquired X, xAI now valued at $80B

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And what happened to Tesla solar roofs? Haven’t heard about those since like 2020. Who actually has one? And Tesla trucks? And full self-driving? And robotaxis? And the private venture around the moon? It’s like everyone just forgets Musk’s announcements that never get delivered on.

Aren't Cyber trucks by Tesla? And FSD is basically here which means robotaxis are basically here. Now there are just regulatory hurdles and the long tail.

Quite a claim. FSD in practice is nowhere close to actually being able to do robotaxi operations. So its not really a regulatory burden, other then regulatory actually checking if it works.

Re: xAI has acquired X, xAI now valued at $80B

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How's Solar City doing now? Not sure the court was capable of that judgement.

And what happened to Tesla solar roofs? Haven’t heard about those since like 2020. Who actually has one? And Tesla trucks? And full self-driving? And robotaxis? And the private venture around the moon? It’s like everyone just forgets Musk’s announcements that never get delivered on.

What are you talking about? How about you spend like 2min doing research? Tesla solar roofs exist and are being deployed. Its just not the extreme growth market that Musk hopped for. And the trucks exist too.

The private moon mission is off because the costumer pulled out. But Starship is still in development and is contract with NASA for a moon mission.

Of course Robotaxi isn't close to existing.

Re: xAI has acquired X, xAI now valued at $80B

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And then will leverage against that valuation for loans, acquisitions, etc. Self dealing. Nobody cares anymore.

Musk gets away with a lot because he does deliver sometimes - the cars and the rockets have done well. The investors and lenders are not totally dumb.

Would anyone say the same about Cathie Wood? Also, Starship "done well?"
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