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Scammers Steal $1T a Year – Mostly from Americans

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Re: Scammers Steal $1T a Year – Mostly from Americans

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A perspective: redistribution finds it's ways. People with roughly equal wealth would not scam each other's at this level

Ask Nigerians how they feel about economic opportunity living in a low trust society full of scammers.

I hope you’re aware scammers don’t have a moral code (they are most likely to be sociopaths) and do not exclusively target the wealthy.

Often the most likely victim of a scammer is their neighbor.

Re: Scammers Steal $1T a Year – Mostly from Americans

#52
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It is good to hear that it is coming from countries which has been played by the Western World on the globalization front. Then ripping off those who profited from their low status and relevance on the world market gives it a nice Robin Hood touch.

Scammers prey on the most vulnerable, mentally handicapped people, and even their own neighbors. Ask Nigerians how they feel about the fact they can’t interact with most western institutions or develop economically due to the actions of their worst neighbors. It may surprise you to learn the largest population of victims of Nigerian scammers are other Nigerians. The dollar figures may not reach $1T (since Nigeria is…

> Ask Nigerians how they feel about the fact they can’t interact with most western institutions due to the actions of their worst neighbors.

How about you ask Nigerians how they are besides this topic? You think everything is good in Nigeria if it wouldn't be for that scam-issue?

In fact, you are displaying your own luxury believes here. It seems you think those scammers would have a normal job if they wouldn't be scamming people. Like, they have a choice. Yes, many Nigerians are scammed by other Nigerians. I am aware of that, but if "scamming" wouldn't be possible, those people would do other criminal things to their own people and the reason is that those countries have severe economic problems making it hard for normal people to have a life the way we live here in the beautiful West.

Them scamming their way into the West is as a small payback on the same road as the globalized markets operate. Those scammers rip off Westerners who profit from those same roads and the rip off their Western companies practice in the scammers home countries.

So yeah, I did hear that strategy already. It is an attempt at hacking my radicalized social behavior through the backdoor, while simultaneously diverting attention from those who actually hurt people in those countries: western politicians and companies. You will fail more often now with this strategy since the wave is rolling back and there are not many other strategies of diversion. They were never needed before.

Times change.

Re: Scammers Steal $1T a Year – Mostly from Americans

#53
The scamming industry in Brazil seems to have grown a lot since the pandemic. I get calls almost daily.

Three types of scam are really common lately:

  1- You get an SMS pretending to be from the Post Office saying that you have to pay tax for your packet to get through customs;
  2- You get a call from someone saying they're from your bank and they need you to confirm that you bought something expensive like a TV;
  3- Someone says they're your lawyer and you need to pay them to get your settlement (this one is nasty, because they look up people who have something going on in the justice system).

Re: Scammers Steal $1T a Year – Mostly from Americans

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post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Scammers prey on the most vulnerable, mentally handicapped people, and even their own neighbors. Ask Nigerians how they feel about the fact they can’t interact with most western institutions or develop economically due to the actions of their worst neighbors. It may surprise you to learn the largest population of victims of Nigerian scammers are other Nigerians. The dollar figures may not reach $1T (since Nigeria is…

> Ask Nigerians how they feel about the fact they can’t interact with most western institutions due to the actions of their worst neighbors. How about you ask Nigerians how they are besides this topic? You think everything is good in Nigeria if it wouldn't be for that scam-issue? In fact, you are displaying your own luxury believes here. It seems you think those scammers would have a normal job if they wouldn't be sc…

Read up on how economic development works.

Ask any of the Asian tiger economies that were formerly victims of colonialism how they economically developed out of poverty.

Developing trusted institutions leads to outside investment. Outside investment leads to growth. Growth leads to not being poor. When nobody will invest in Nigeria because nobody actually trusts they won’t get bamboozled, this is a fundamental chicken and egg problem.

Again, I would strongly suggest re-examining the luxury robinhood narrative you have in your head.

Re: Scammers Steal $1T a Year – Mostly from Americans

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It's good to hear that scammers are taking your grandparents retirement money as reparations for colonial acts?

Most people dramatically underestimate how widespread their cultural moral system is. Billions of people live in cultures where scamming is perfectly moral.

And most people dramatically underestimate what a death sentence a low trust society is for economic development.

Countries that allow a culture of scamming are all poor because a low trust society will never develop into a first world economy.

Trust and property rights are the basis of all development and investment and human collaboration.

Re: Scammers Steal $1T a Year – Mostly from Americans

#59
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I'm not going to read the "article" because it is a transcript and looks a bit rambly and I don't expect it to be talking about anything interesting. But just going to the headline here; consider the base rate. North America has huge per-capita wealth (by a bit of a margin over most other large players). It is expected that scammers would target them and make the most profit there.

>I'm not going to read the "article" because it is a transcript and looks a bit rambly and I don't expect it to be talking about anything interesting.

So just like a scam, eh?

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