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Upcoming Windows 11 builds cannot install without internet and Microsoft Account

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Re: Upcoming Windows 11 builds cannot install without internet and Microsoft Account

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Windows is the first thing that gets deleted on a new PC. An acquaintance of mine works for Microsoft. Every time I meet him, he always tells me how much money hey makes. I'm sure it's double of what I earn when I have a good year. A big part of me wants to earn that money, too. But an unwavering part of me knows, I could never work for Microsoft. At this point it is not just bitterness from their anti-Linux, anti-FO…

A big part of me wants to earn that money, too. But an unwavering part of me knows, I could never work for Microsoft.

Big Tech and big money is not just Microsoft --- there's Apple and Google too, but if you don't want to work for MS, then the latter two might be "same but different".

Re: Upcoming Windows 11 builds cannot install without internet and Microsoft Account

#33

It is very hard to use Android without a Google account. Most people accept that. They must have learnt from that.

Is it? I use Android without Google account (with services though). No app forces account on me, there's always option to sign in through other platform or directly via email.

Re: Upcoming Windows 11 builds cannot install without internet and Microsoft Account

#34

It's such an absurd lie. If Microsoft's idea of security is to force its users to authenticate online for a local account, they should never be allowed in the software industry at all. They're needlessly and dramatically increasing the attack surface of one of the most security critical software running on user devices.

And for what? Make number go up? If it's just another data collection scheme the at least I could understand why.

Re: Upcoming Windows 11 builds cannot install without internet and Microsoft Account

#35

It's such an absurd lie. If Microsoft's idea of security is to force its users to authenticate online for a local account, they should never be allowed in the software industry at all. They're needlessly and dramatically increasing the attack surface of one of the most security critical software running on user devices.

It's an argument for increased security in the same way that they consider uploading the contents of your hard drive to their servers to scan for "malware" (and other undesirable-to-them content) is. Corporate authoritarianism.

Re: Upcoming Windows 11 builds cannot install without internet and Microsoft Account

#36

A while ago, I needed to get into safe mode to rescue a laptop that wouldn't boot. Since it uses Windows 11, I originally logged in using my Microsoft Account and a Windows Hello pin. Safe mode doesn't load wifi drivers and the laptop didn't have an ethernet port, so I couldn't log in to my Microsoft Account to get into Windows safe mode. Didn't have a dongle with ethernet port at that time, so I had to backup the dr…

wait, you need internet connection to even login? this means root cannot use computer when you do not have internet connection for any reason?

Re: Upcoming Windows 11 builds cannot install without internet and Microsoft Account

#37
post #34

It's such an absurd lie. If Microsoft's idea of security is to force its users to authenticate online for a local account, they should never be allowed in the software industry at all. They're needlessly and dramatically increasing the attack surface of one of the most security critical software running on user devices.

And for what? Make number go up? If it's just another data collection scheme the at least I could understand why.

Because the NSA pays them to.

Why did they do to Skype what they did (first turn it from p2p to centralized and spyable and then just ignore it and let it die)?

Same reason.

Re: Upcoming Windows 11 builds cannot install without internet and Microsoft Account

#38

"Challenge accepted." Much like with the TPM "requirement" and the others, I don't expect this one to stay undefeated for long.

Why fight a piece of software with other motives hen you can choose one that is aligned with yours instead?

Re: Upcoming Windows 11 builds cannot install without internet and Microsoft Account

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post #33

It is very hard to use Android without a Google account. Most people accept that. They must have learnt from that.

Is it? I use Android without Google account (with services though). No app forces account on me, there's always option to sign in through other platform or directly via email.

> No app forces account on me

What apps? You can't use Google Play to download apps without an account.

Re: Upcoming Windows 11 builds cannot install without internet and Microsoft Account

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post #3

> "We're removing the bypassnro.cmd script from the build to enhance security and user experience of Windows 11." .·°՞(˃ ᗜ ˂)՞°·.

Oh daddy MS please enhance my user experience OH YES enhance me uhhnnnnn

I couldn't face my own reflection in the mirror if my job was justifying obviously user hostile crap like this.

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