I actively avoid using a MS account on my local Windows machines. Until last week when I logged into Teams and Windows activated that account as the Windows account on the next boot. The problem is: I was using my wife's laptop. I dunno how to remove the account without creating more problems.
Windows 11 is closing a loophole that let you skip making a Microsoft account
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Re: Windows 11 is closing a loophole that let you skip making a Microsoft account
#62Aren't they just following Apple? Technically you can use an iPhone and Mac without an Apple (iCloud) account but it's pretty dang unsupported except for corp devices. If I recall correctly you can't install anything from the app store on an Mac/iPhone without an Apple account. On Mac you can run other stuff without an account. You can't on iPhone. You'd need XCode, XCode you can only get from the App Store or possib…
> Technically you can use an iPhone and Mac without an Apple (iCloud) account but it's pretty dang unsupported
That was the status quo on Windows Home. But there's a big difference between "pretty darn unsupported, expect random breakage in things like the M$ Store" and "we'll stop allowing you to do it at all".
Re: Windows 11 is closing a loophole that let you skip making a Microsoft account
#63Windows set up is actually insane, I did it in a VM recently to test my app on Windows. I would say not only does it require a Microsoft account but you also have to agree to (at least) 3 EULAs about sharing/selling your data that are unskippable. Pretty sure it also makes you set your ad preferences.
Absolutely insane for an OS, I don't know how people put up with it as a daily driver.
Re: Windows 11 is closing a loophole that let you skip making a Microsoft account
#64Enhanced security, if you connect your device to the internet. Can they at least stop bullshitting? It's shameful
Microsoft is really degrading themselves over the 0.1% of users that opted out (and however much money they didn’t manipulate out of them because of that). I’m really surprised how humiliatingly their top managers act. Surely someone who lies like this has no concern for self respect or pride.
The sad thing is that they're being respected for that in their circles. There is no need for shame. They're proud of themselves. They don't talk to people who feel the cringe, and I guess them subconsciously knowing is a reason why they don't talk to people further below them.
Of course, those most successful are just numb due to specific psychological deviations from the academic norm.
Re: Windows 11 is closing a loophole that let you skip making a Microsoft account
#65I was banking on Windows 11 being a skip version but Windows 12 will probably be just as bad. Windows 10 forever then!
Re: Windows 11 is closing a loophole that let you skip making a Microsoft account
#66What is MS's motivation to push so strongly to have everyone on a Microsoft account? I really hope it's not primarily so that they can more effectively target your computer for ads. Or upsell some service subscriptions.
> I really hope it's not primarily so that they can more effectively target your computer for ads. Or upsell some service subscriptions.
I hope you're not that naive.
Alas, smart people have been shining a light on Microsoft's path for over a decade.
Re: Windows 11 is closing a loophole that let you skip making a Microsoft account
#67Aren't they just following Apple? Technically you can use an iPhone and Mac without an Apple (iCloud) account but it's pretty dang unsupported except for corp devices. If I recall correctly you can't install anything from the app store on an Mac/iPhone without an Apple account. On Mac you can run other stuff without an account. You can't on iPhone. You'd need XCode, XCode you can only get from the App Store or possib…
If you don't use the app store, you can still install the xcode command line tools with the xcode-select command. I didn't bother signing in with an Apple account on my personal Mac.
Re: Windows 11 is closing a loophole that let you skip making a Microsoft account
#68The best marketing campaign for Linux, is Windows 11.
The best marketing campaign for Windows is finally deciding on a distro only to be presented with a bunch of bullshit options (gnome, cinnamon, xfe, kde, mate, etc) the average person is expected to somehow understand the difference between or care about if they did. And no, someone who doesn’t know what they’re doing is not going to feel comfortable picking at random. Then the 95% odds that trying to dual boot witho…
Surely after 20 years you’ve given up on the year of Linux on the desktop.
I’ve only used it for ~15 years but long ago came to the conclusion that I really don’t care about broader adoption. Why should I? It is good if people find their way to Linux. But it isn’t a product, they can come to it and accept it as it is, or fix it for themselves. But there’s no real benefit to increasing marketshare for its own sake.
Re: Windows 11 is closing a loophole that let you skip making a Microsoft account
#69Another stupid move by M$. No wonder the market share of Win11 is still below Win10. IMHO WinXP, 7 and 10 were the best ones. A billion dollar behemoth like M$ should know better ;-)
Windows market share: https://gs.statcounter.com/windows-version-market-share/desk...
Re: Windows 11 is closing a loophole that let you skip making a Microsoft account
#70So I have Windows 10, and I was not looking forward to the "upgrade" to 11 at 10's EOL because of the TPM requirement. With this change, I have decided to accept the insecurity of not updating and stick with 10. The only thing I do on Windows is ensure my FOSS is cross-platform.
> I have Windows 10, and I was not looking forward to the "upgrade" to 11 at 10's EOL because of ...
I refused to "upgrade" past Windows 7.
When Windows 7 went EOL, I installed Linux. I've never looked back.