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Re: Show HN: A personal YouTube frontend based on yt-dlp

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Post by haagendos »

mrmattyboy wrote: post #175
WD-42 wrote: post #144

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Us not having the right seems a little extreme. What if I close my eyes and block my ears during evey ad? Do I not have the right to use YouTube then?

I would say yes and no (leaning on the no)... I think saying you don't have a right is fine... they are providing a service and dictating it's usage and you are using it. So on the "closing your eyes". On one side, yes, allowing your browser to play the video and YT then being able to treat as a advert view means that youtube gets paid and the creator gets paid. However... I would personally view this as can a person…

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Post by jasonfarnon »

furyofantares wrote: post #159
jasonfarnon wrote: post #155

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pirating who? I actually don't know who holds the copywrite to youtube videos. I assume the creators do, and that a lot of them would be happy to have their videos shared. It's google that wants suck the value out of the creations for themselves.

Well as long as you don't know who owns the copyright and/or make an assumption that they'd be cool with it, must be good to go.

did someone, outside your imagination, say it was "good to go"?

Re: Show HN: A personal YouTube frontend based on yt-dlp

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Post by jv22222 »

benkaiser wrote: post #248
jdpedrie wrote: post #72

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What is “safe app”? Too generic to be googleable.

On this same topic, I just launched an app that lets you use your offline videos in an interface that is easy to use for kids. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kaiserapps... I stuck to a one-off payment, rather than the garbage subscription models all the other parenting apps use.

What we find essential about safe vision is that the kid can search like normal but it's limited to the approved channels. With about 30 (highly curated) channels the kid can find a lot of safe content.

It also generates an updated dashboard page from new stuff from all the creators, also essential.

The offline thing has never come up for us. They do a yearly sub $29.99, happy to pay. Just an FYI.

Re: Show HN: A personal YouTube frontend based on yt-dlp

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Post by benkaiser »

jv22222 wrote: post #253
benkaiser wrote: post #248

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On this same topic, I just launched an app that lets you use your offline videos in an interface that is easy to use for kids. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kaiserapps... I stuck to a one-off payment, rather than the garbage subscription models all the other parenting apps use.

What we find essential about safe vision is that the kid can search like normal but it's limited to the approved channels. With about 30 (highly curated) channels the kid can find a lot of safe content. It also generates an updated dashboard page from new stuff from all the creators, also essential. The offline thing has never come up for us. They do a yearly sub $29.99, happy to pay. Just an FYI.

I'm quite curious how they go about licensing the content, maybe they just pay the creators a cut of the subscription fees. Or is it really just scraping youtube in some form?

As for the search you mentioned, that might come into it for an older range, for my little ones they still can't read or spell yet, they just want to click on the thumbnail that looks the most engaging at any random time.

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Post by toomuchtodo »

creer wrote: post #60
toomuchtodo wrote: post #48

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If you were to have something local build you an algorithm, what signal would you want it to consume and how far from the median would you want it to deviate? Would you want it to use signal from online socials?

This is a good idea. One signal would be HN mentions. Second might be reddit mentions, but with a lot of qualifications. As a first step, a page showing recent youtube links from HN would be nice!

I believe I may have found something that is headed this way:

https://www.graze.social/

https://www.graze.social/blog/grazer-algorithm-engine

https://github.com/graze-social/grazer

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Post by tmcdos »

yyhhsj0521 wrote: post #217
margana wrote: post #205

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Even entertaining the idea is extremely disturbing and dystopian. Having control over what we watch and what we listen to should be basic human rights. And those are inalienable, meaning we can't sign away those rights, not in a contract, not in any terms of service. People who accept that as something a company should be allowed to do are a massive problem. Because of you, they might actually do it. It will start by…

This is like saying you have the rights to mute your work meetings. Sure you do, but you just won't be employed anymore. I don't see that as a problem, because being employed and watching YouTube are not essential services nor human rights.

Then the correct solution would be to allow everyone just pay $1 per month for watching Youtube without any ads. Youtube will be funded and users will see no ads. But I suspect that even in that case Youtube will still want to show ads - even though the users would be paying for NOT seeing ads ...

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Post by aaronbaugher »

samrus wrote: post #209
Gigachad wrote: post #85

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Yes, people prefer to get stuff for free rather than paying for it. That's not a very interesting insight.

This is not correct. Look at steam, PC gamers overwhelmingly choosing paid DRM controlled games over free piracy, even for small indie games that have basically no protections Ill say again what gabe newell said. Piracy isnt a price problem, but a service issue. Its convenient, if you can make a legit way to get the product thats as convenient for the user as piracy, then they will pay for it

Right. I haven't even considered pirating a game since GOG became a thing.

Re: Show HN: A personal YouTube frontend based on yt-dlp

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Post by yyhhsj0521 »

tmcdos wrote: post #257
yyhhsj0521 wrote: post #217

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This is like saying you have the rights to mute your work meetings. Sure you do, but you just won't be employed anymore. I don't see that as a problem, because being employed and watching YouTube are not essential services nor human rights.

Then the correct solution would be to allow everyone just pay $1 per month for watching Youtube without any ads. Youtube will be funded and users will see no ads. But I suspect that even in that case Youtube will still want to show ads - even though the users would be paying for NOT seeing ads ...

Why is this correct? Youtube is a private company. It's very much allowed to charge $200 per month while playing tons of ads for you. Youtube sets the price and its policy, not the users.
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