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Re: 4chan: Beyond one billion

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Post by sofuture »

Paul_S wrote: post #15

I would be surprised if there wasn't an overlap between HN and 4chan (same as with SA). Being run in diametrically opposed way it fills its role rather well, I think. There is no reputation system, no limits, no censorship, etc.. This means it produces many utterly vile posts - but all of them are true expressions of people as they are, not as they pretend to be. I think people often don't appreciate this. It's not j…

"This means it produces many utterly vile posts - but all of them are true expressions of people as they are, not as they pretend to be."

A vast majority of the vile posts are people playing a game/acting out a character/aping (along with) the community. It's willfully not-in-earnest. It's crazy that people think 4chan is 'true expression'.

That's not to say that there's not truth in 4chan, it's just that it's not on the surface, it's 'another layer down'.

For example, take /fit/, the fitness board. It's full of great advice and discussion... as long as you know enough to read past the obvious bad advice that's willfully posted to fuck with people.

Re: 4chan: Beyond one billion

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Post by lovskogen »

Swizec wrote: post #36
rockyleal wrote: post #25

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I like your post so this is a real question, not a sarcastic remark: Can you elaborate about why you consider memes profound?

Memes are profound because they are our culture . It is what the "young people of today" do. In the 50's they had rock-and-roll, in the 60's it was hippies and so on. Right now, it's the internet. In just a few more years all of us will become "the old guys" and our younger brothers and sisters will come up with something new - my sister already thinks I'm lame for liking the internet so much and sharing silly pictur…

Young people of today do, or young computer geeks do today? I don't think internet memes is the same as the rock and roll or hippie movement.

Re: 4chan: Beyond one billion

#43

Post by Karunamon »

aneisf wrote: post #40
nsmartt wrote: post #31

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Aren't most of those boards invaded pretty regularly? Also, some of the boards are full of people who can be described as insane- despite not having porn/gore/etc. For example, /g/. I don't agree that it's inaccurate to say 4chan is vile in general, and I certainly agree with the sentiment that 4chan is the best and worst of the internet- or at least the social part of the internet.

Aren't most of those boards invaded pretty regularly? Huh? No.

The hell you say. If I had a penny for "XX decides what board we invade and with what" post on /b/...

And I say this as a regular visitor of /x/. The mods seem downright useless some days.

Re: 4chan: Beyond one billion

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Post by charliesome »

clockstrikesten wrote: post #24
ionwake wrote: post #10

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i would say government at a guess

The site owner recently revealed he pushes 3500000 GB per month. My lowball estimate puts that at roughly $77,000 per month, just under a million dollars per year to keep the site running. There are no ads on /b/, which is the main board, representing I'd guess 95% of the entire site's traffic. That, combined with the plausibility of the following, leads me to believe he receives massive government subsidies: http://…

I think $77k might be overshooting the mark a bit.

I once ran a site that pushed about 40TB a month (about 1% of 4chan) and it cost me $100/month to run. If you extrapolate that figure out (ignoring the fact that bandwidth gets cheaper the more you use), 4chan could cost as little as $10k a month to run.

Re: 4chan: Beyond one billion

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Post by Swizec »

lovskogen wrote: post #42
Swizec wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Memes are profound because they are our culture . It is what the "young people of today" do. In the 50's they had rock-and-roll, in the 60's it was hippies and so on. Right now, it's the internet. In just a few more years all of us will become "the old guys" and our younger brothers and sisters will come up with something new - my sister already thinks I'm lame for liking the internet so much and sharing silly pictur…

Young people of today do, or young computer geeks do today? I don't think internet memes is the same as the rock and roll or hippie movement.

It's probably not the same, but it's the closest thing we've got.

Re: 4chan: Beyond one billion

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Post by lovskogen »

Swizec wrote: post #45
lovskogen wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Young people of today do, or young computer geeks do today? I don't think internet memes is the same as the rock and roll or hippie movement.

It's probably not the same, but it's the closest thing we've got.

Even Justin Bieber is probably bigger and more known than internet memes.

Re: 4chan: Beyond one billion

#48

Post by nateberkopec »

nsmartt wrote: post #31
nateberkopec wrote: post #28

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This whole "4chan is vile and horrible" thing is getting old. 4chan is not /b/, and vice versa. There are a lot of boards on 4chan that are perfectly normal, with no gore threads/porn/etc.

Aren't most of those boards invaded pretty regularly? Also, some of the boards are full of people who can be described as insane- despite not having porn/gore/etc. For example, /g/. I don't agree that it's inaccurate to say 4chan is vile in general, and I certainly agree with the sentiment that 4chan is the best and worst of the internet- or at least the social part of the internet.

No.

/g/ isn't insane, you're taking everything that people say on 4chan seriously. Which is a mistake.

Re: 4chan: Beyond one billion

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Post by nateberkopec »

Karunamon wrote: post #43
aneisf wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Aren't most of those boards invaded pretty regularly? Huh? No.

The hell you say. If I had a penny for "XX decides what board we invade and with what" post on /b/... And I say this as a regular visitor of /x/. The mods seem downright useless some days.

>implying /b/ actually goes through with all those raids

/x/ is the only board that actually does get raided. it's probably the worst board on 4chan (i'm a pixie AMA).

Re: 4chan: Beyond one billion

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Post by Karunamon »

nateberkopec wrote: post #49
Karunamon wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The hell you say. If I had a penny for "XX decides what board we invade and with what" post on /b/... And I say this as a regular visitor of /x/. The mods seem downright useless some days.

>implying /b/ actually goes through with all those raids /x/ is the only board that actually does get raided. it's probably the worst board on 4chan (i'm a pixie AMA).

>implying /b/, /mlp/, or /v/ aren't actually the worst boards on 4chan

There is some genuinely interesting stuff on /x/ once you filter out the fakers and the roleplayers.

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