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The Leader of the LeetCode Rebellion: An Interview with Roy Lee

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Re: The Leader of the LeetCode Rebellion: An Interview with Roy Lee

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Post by shuckles »

ajcp wrote: post #9

I really want to be on this guys side, and when I read (or hear) interviews with him he comes off as thoughtful, introspective, and clear-eyed, while the reactions to him seem obviously out-sized, misguided, and frankly childish. I'm always left thinking: hell yeah dude, burn it down. ...but then I see the actual stuff he posts on X, his YouTube video, his overall "informal content", and it's blatantly antagonistic,…

Some people need to realize we live in a society and society mostly functions by having people do the right thing when defecting is easier and more convenient. This person is one of them.

Re: The Leader of the LeetCode Rebellion: An Interview with Roy Lee

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Post by hinkley »

VirusNewbie wrote: post #10

I don't understand why he (or anyone) thinks it's OK to say, cheat in an algorithmic interview, but that if you were somehow able to have an LLM secretly feed you optimal answers for any other part of the interview it's "wrong". Why is it not OK to cheat on a system design interview? Why is it not OK to completely make up a story to make you look amazing when they ask about your background? In the article he thinks c…

Robin Hood is a thief and an anarchist. Why do we care about the story? It’s not what he stole, it’s who he stole from and why.

Re: The Leader of the LeetCode Rebellion: An Interview with Roy Lee

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Post by bastardoperator »

Jtsummers wrote: post #8
cjaybo wrote: post #6

This guy must have some strong connections to get this sort of coverage out of an AI wrapper + a few gimmicky twitter posts

Does it take strong connections to end up in a student newspaper?

No, but he also ended up on Fireship, and he also shared his company has done 160K+ in sales in the past 4 weeks.

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Post by kevinventullo »

LZ_Khan wrote: post #3

I feel like covid started the remote work revolution and AI cheating is about to end it. Or at least bring back on-site interviews.

On-site interviews are pretty clearly the antidote to this, but that costs money this quarter. In contrast, the cost of hiring a total fraud cannot be pinpointed to any one metric or line item.

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Post by bastardoperator »

shuckles wrote: post #11
ajcp wrote: post #9

I really want to be on this guys side, and when I read (or hear) interviews with him he comes off as thoughtful, introspective, and clear-eyed, while the reactions to him seem obviously out-sized, misguided, and frankly childish. I'm always left thinking: hell yeah dude, burn it down. ...but then I see the actual stuff he posts on X, his YouTube video, his overall "informal content", and it's blatantly antagonistic,…

Some people need to realize we live in a society and society mostly functions by having people do the right thing when defecting is easier and more convenient. This person is one of them.

What makes these tactics the "right thing"? I as a prospective employee don't get to quiz the interviewer using the same tactics? I can ask questions, but how I do know they're knowledgeable and that I want to work for them? Or should I be thankful they're even talking to me? I think it's a terrible practice and that we can do better.

Re: The Leader of the LeetCode Rebellion: An Interview with Roy Lee

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Post by laidoffamazon »

cjaybo wrote: post #6

This guy must have some strong connections to get this sort of coverage out of an AI wrapper + a few gimmicky twitter posts

He went to Columbia and he seems kinda unhinged. The former is really all you need.

It's a small club, and the rest of us aren't in it.

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Post by distalx »

VirusNewbie wrote: post #10

I don't understand why he (or anyone) thinks it's OK to say, cheat in an algorithmic interview, but that if you were somehow able to have an LLM secretly feed you optimal answers for any other part of the interview it's "wrong". Why is it not OK to cheat on a system design interview? Why is it not OK to completely make up a story to make you look amazing when they ask about your background? In the article he thinks c…

Exactly! Using the tool secretly totally misses the point of the interview. And now it's like, Hey look at my cheat tool! Feels more like a sales pitch than anything else.

Re: The Leader of the LeetCode Rebellion: An Interview with Roy Lee

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Post by roxolotl »

kevinventullo wrote: post #14
LZ_Khan wrote: post #3

I feel like covid started the remote work revolution and AI cheating is about to end it. Or at least bring back on-site interviews.

On-site interviews are pretty clearly the antidote to this, but that costs money this quarter. In contrast, the cost of hiring a total fraud cannot be pinpointed to any one metric or line item.

Good interviews are the antidote to this. Outside of certain fields ability to do leet code puzzles does not correlate with job performance. An interview where you do some realistic work is the direction we should be moving. Build some small functionality that’s similar to what the company you’re interviewing for does. Let them use tools they enjoy, ai or not. If they fly through it expand the tasks. Talk about why the code they, or an ai wrote works. The tradeoffs in their designs. I’ve given hundreds of interviews without asking a single leet code style question and not regretted it.
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