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Re: DJ With Apple Music launches to enable subscribers to mix their own sets

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Apple has this in the form of a poorly-marketed feature called iTunes Match ($25/year). https://support.apple.com/en-us/108935 I no longer subscribe to Apple Music, but I have 169.5 days of purchased music that I can stream anywhere. Tracks that exactly match an entry in their catalog are presumably just represented as a pointer, and tracks which aren't available in Apple Music are uploaded.

Readers should note that it's super buggy. Occasionally your music will be unavailable, even though it can match it to tracks that ARE available on apple music (it just says "not available in your region" and is greyed out). Sometimes it also "matches" to the clean version of the music (may god damn people who think that censoring music is a good idea) and there's no way to correct it. I've lost an impressive amount…

It sounds like you're confusing iTunes Match and iCloud music library. I've been using iTunes Match for about 15 years and never had any issues. It's not matching your stuff with Apple Music (which didn't exist when Match launched).

Re: DJ With Apple Music launches to enable subscribers to mix their own sets

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I recently learned that DJs today just press a button to mix two tracks. Growing up mixing and beat matching used to be a skill to be proud of. Now it's just a button. So I was told.

There's no skill involved in pitching the two nearly-identical-in-BPM tracks and nudging them into rhythm. Put any sync button DJ in front of a proper CDJ setup, give them a couple of hours to practice and they will be able to pull off a set. Most importantly: it is the least important part of the job. Nobody in the crowd gives a shit about whether or not you're using the sync button, it makes no difference to them.…

>no skill involved in pitching the two nearly-identical-in-BPM tracks and nudging them into rhythm

I mean, there clearly is if you ever try teaching a beginner to beatmix (whether vinyl or digital). I don't disagree with your other points.

Re: DJ With Apple Music launches to enable subscribers to mix their own sets

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Djay’s killer feature is algorithmic stem extraction. The streaming audio services that have integration (Tidal, now Apple Music) don’t allow this processing. It’s an arbitrary technical limitation that I suspect is rooted in a licensing agreement from the rights holders. tl;dr this is great for playing with sequencing, but a lot of modern djays will want to be able to do stem separation even when exploring, and live…

edit: I see there's a tier that does allow stems again now! https://tidal.com/DJs -- Licensing indeed. For a time VirtualDJ allowed stems for Tidal streamed tracks but were required to disable it. https://www.virtualdj.com/forums/254722/VirtualDJ_Technical_...

Oh neat, thanks!

Yeah Virtual DJ integration was great, I got frustrated with their beat gridding (I come from Ableton where it’s always been magic and the Traktor where auto grid was really good) but they’ve been pushing everything else forward for a while.

Re: DJ With Apple Music launches to enable subscribers to mix their own sets

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I steer clear of Apple products, but I've still had a lot of fun in this space thanks to DJ Studio ( https://dj.studio/ ), a desktop app that helps make offline (rather than real-time) mixes. I use it to make a monthly personal mixtape, which is a nice way to remember what I used to listen to. They call it a "DAW for DJs," which is accurate. I especially admire the team that makes it. The CEO records demo videos that…

https://mixxx.org for a FOSS (read: somewhat enshittification proof) alternative.

I love mixxx, but I bet this apple music thing will never support open source dj software. They are too afraid of folks pirating the music.

Re: DJ With Apple Music launches to enable subscribers to mix their own sets

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Dangit, from the title I was hoping this was like Spotify DJ for Apple Music, but with a bit more control. Like "Give me a Linkin Park mix, mostly older stuff, a good mix of hits and deep cuts" rather than whatever Spotify thinks I want at that moment. Anyone have a good suggestion for that?

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Re: DJ With Apple Music launches to enable subscribers to mix their own sets

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Great to have my AM library accessible, but falls short for a couple big reasons:

- Some of my best playlists were created using the mobile app, and AM seems to have a hard schism between its mobile and desktop versions (the playlists aren't there and would take a long time to recreate / multiple errors when trying to rebuild them).

- The features I want to use (recording, real-time acapella) aren't available for licensing reasons (understandable but kneecap what I want to actually do).

Re: DJ With Apple Music launches to enable subscribers to mix their own sets

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Im a little confused, if I wanted to create a mix with my favorite parts of songs, is this something I can do relatively easily from Apple Music? Or do I need to get additional hardware or buy some extra software? I love a lot of jam bands, but dont always want to listen to the uhhh lengthy preambles and wandering postludes, just want the gravy. Would love to mix together some highlights along with other non jam song…

I believe this is one thing Tidal is designed to achieve. I just jumped ship to it from Spotify after getting fed up with garbage getting floated up in sponsored recommendations. Supposedly you have access to stems for some of the library, and compatibility with a fair few DJ platforms e.g. Serato

Re: DJ With Apple Music launches to enable subscribers to mix their own sets

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Great to have my AM library accessible, but falls short for a couple big reasons: - Some of my best playlists were created using the mobile app, and AM seems to have a hard schism between its mobile and desktop versions (the playlists aren't there and would take a long time to recreate / multiple errors when trying to rebuild them). - The features I want to use (recording, real-time acapella) aren't available for lic…

FWIW, I've never had an issue with playlists synching between mobile and desktop. I have had other issues in Apple Music, most annoyingly when tracks are randomly replaced by other versions of the song, but you might reach out to Apple support on this one if it happens regularly.
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