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Fragment of a human face aged over one million years discovered

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Re: Fragment of a human face aged over one million years discovered

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Didn't humans first leave Africa 100,000 years ago by high estimates? To Western Europe 40,000 years ago? Doesn't this completely upend early humanity?

No the homo genus includes everything from something barely distinguishable from an gorilla all the way to modern humans.

All homo species are or were bipedal tool users and descended from ancestors that had been bipedal tool users for a million years prior. You wouldn't get them confused with a gorilla.

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What if the literature of God Created men(mankind) in his image came to differentiate Homo sapiens from others. Or the history really began once the other Humans were no more ? Just passing thoughts

I've been thinking about this a lot, by coincidence, as I read Unsong by Scott Alexander (unsongbook.com). It's a beautifully written somewhat comic and somewhat tragic story about the kabbalic-turned-capitalist search for the powerful Names of God. It occurred to me that, if the Abrahamic God exists, and the origin of Adam is anything more than a mere metaphor, God must have had to make a decision at some point. "Th…

> "Adam" wasn't even named that in the early writings, presumably closer to God's word.

Citation needed. What was he named in the early writings?

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No the homo genus includes everything from something barely distinguishable from an gorilla all the way to modern humans.

All homo species are or were bipedal tool users and descended from ancestors that had been bipedal tool users for a million years prior. You wouldn't get them confused with a gorilla.

https://blogs.ucl.ac.uk/museums/files/2016/10/Homo-habilis-r...

Homo habilis looks like a slight shorter haired gorilla.

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> Ah-ha! But no one has found the missing link between ape and this so called Homo habilis

Using the term "missing link" instantly flags you as not having a serious evolutionary background. We don't find "missing links". Ever, really. They existed, but the fossil record is far too small a sampling to gift us like that.

Yeah, but I’d sure like to see one of those wolves that became a whale.

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I've been thinking about this a lot, by coincidence, as I read Unsong by Scott Alexander (unsongbook.com). It's a beautifully written somewhat comic and somewhat tragic story about the kabbalic-turned-capitalist search for the powerful Names of God. It occurred to me that, if the Abrahamic God exists, and the origin of Adam is anything more than a mere metaphor, God must have had to make a decision at some point. "Th…

> "Adam" wasn't even named that in the early writings, presumably closer to God's word. Citation needed. What was he named in the early writings?

Thank you for calling me on this.

He seems to have been "Adamah", or "dirt" - which is not far removed from "Adam", I'll grant.

But "Eve" is the one that really changed. She was named by Adam "Ishah", feminine version of "ish"/man. Or maybe "Chivah", a variation on the Hebrew word for life. I'm not clear. Then the Greeks made her "Zoe".... Fast forward a few hundred years, and a couple languages, and it becomes "Eve".

An early computer translating program took "out of sight, out of mind" to Russian and back, and returned "invisible insanity". A fairly reasonable translation, in some respects.

My point is really this: Biblical literalists who only read it in their native tongue are making indefensible claims about meaning.

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If you’ve seen Star Trek the Original Series it shows you precisely how much humans are into humanoid subspecies. They could be green for all a dude who hasn’t seen a woman in a week could care!

> They could be green for all a dude who hasn’t seen a woman in a week could care! Not a great example; the green women are specifically shown to exert pheromonal control over alien males.

I can't smell them on TV, and Vina the Orion still had a lot of control over me.

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The craziest thing for me is that there's a lot of evidence for claiming that Sapiens interbred with other Homos, such as the Neanderthal.

Isnt neanderthal sapiens. Also, not all modern humans

"sapiens" is our species name. They are Homo neanderthalis, so they are Homo, which is probably what you were intending.

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How certainly do we actually know that? If the evidence you claim is that there are no Y-chromosomes from other hominids, an alternative explanation could be that hybrids with Y-chromosomes from other hominids did exist, but disappeared gradually over the centuries/millenia either because they were less fit or through pure chance. Are there any now living people with mt-dna from other hominids? Having a minority non-…

The genetic evidence points into the other direction: > There is considerably less Neanderthal ancestry on the X-chromosome compared to the autosomal chromosomes, which similarly suggests that admixture with modern humans was primarily the result of mating between modern human females and Neanderthal males. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neanderthal_genetics#Parentage

Chicks dig those big, furry eyebrows.

Re: Fragment of a human face aged over one million years discovered

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All homo species are or were bipedal tool users and descended from ancestors that had been bipedal tool users for a million years prior. You wouldn't get them confused with a gorilla.

https://blogs.ucl.ac.uk/museums/files/2016/10/Homo-habilis-r... Homo habilis looks like a slight shorter haired gorilla.

No.

You're confusing chimps with gorillas.

Re: Fragment of a human face aged over one million years discovered

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All homo species are or were bipedal tool users and descended from ancestors that had been bipedal tool users for a million years prior. You wouldn't get them confused with a gorilla.

https://blogs.ucl.ac.uk/museums/files/2016/10/Homo-habilis-r... Homo habilis looks like a slight shorter haired gorilla.

Here's video of a gorilla that is famous for its ability and propensity for walking upright. If you want to tell me you would find this "barely distinguishable" from homo habilis, I don't think I'd be doing you a service by believing you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVYzogbTs0w

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