He leaves out the possibility of a voting ring. I am 90% certain several such rings exist, or have existed. I believe some rings are topical, some are user ID based, some are site based.
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This isn't reddit. OK so "sir, this is wendys" but doing flagging for shits and giggles devalues the system.
Not that I think flagging isn't already weaponised.
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#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Did DF ever allow comments on its own website? Not that I'm aware. There's some discussion about it in this post from 2010: https://daringfireball.net/2010/06/whats_fair
This is the one, thanks. > You write on your site; I write on mine. That’s a response. I don’t use comments on Wilcox’s site to respond publicly to his pieces, but somehow it’s unfair that he can’t use comments on my site to respond to mine? What kind of sense is that even supposed to make?
In this case I agree with Gruber. Responding by blogging and citing is better for both websites.
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#24A handful of 100+ comment/upvote submissions in the past month or so alone is not "afraid to discuss". That's hundreds or thousands of eyeballs. And your hot topics might also not be that unique so discussion is happening on other source articles at the same time. Not everything is going to be that interesting all the time. And stuff moves pretty fast around here. Come on now.
True, but there is definitely something fishy about the instant flagging of reasonable content.
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#25> What bothers me isn’t so much that Daring Fireball is shitlisted at Hacker News — even though I really did enjoy reading the commentary on my posts back when they regularly surfaced there, and still do when one slips through the cracks. Did DF ever allow comments on its own website? I vaguely remember gruber once saying: “If you want to comment on my blog, write your own blog.” > What bothers me is that it’s unexpl…
No.
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#26Why is this flagged!?
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#29Would love to hear from HN on why such an otherwise incredible popular site is so often blacklisted or censored vs what is allowed. Why not let users vote instead like other news? Or if truly not being censored bring receipts on what’s happening?
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#30Would love to hear from HN on why such an otherwise incredible popular site is so often blacklisted or censored vs what is allowed. Why not let users vote instead like other news? Or if truly not being censored bring receipts on what’s happening?
It's not being blacklisted or censored (see other comment with link to submissions). My suspicion: it's not relevant to the HN audience. DF is opinion pieces (mostly) about Apple. While I'm sure many DF readers use some Apple device(s), I suspect many (most?) DF readers do not care about "inside baseball"[0] for Apple. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inside_baseball_(metaphor)
Unlikely. “Rotten in Cupertino” was a bombshell and this forum should have been where the most insightful discussion took place. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43348891