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If you get the chance, always run more extra network fiber cabling

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Re: If you get the chance, always run more extra network fiber cabling

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Regarding single mode vs multi-mode ... other than cost, is there any reason at all to run multi-mode fiber in 2025? I was under the impression that single mode was better in basically every way.

Cost, and marginally, heat of the transceivers.

Re: If you get the chance, always run more extra network fiber cabling

#54

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If you have any way to pull cables between floors, try pulling DAC cables. They give you 10+G, require no splicing (hardware can be found cheap now), and generally just work as you'd expect. With a 10G backbone, you can get away with basement->main and main->upstairs in a three-floor house, with a small bridge on your main floor.

> If you have any way to pull cables between floors, try pulling DAC cables. Many of my devices take 10G ethernet, like MacMini and my MacBook Air docking station. Is there an easy way to convert from DAC to 10G Ethernet? The desktop has an SPF+ card so that will take DAC no problem. Unfortunately there is no way to pull an any cables easily. But someone else suggested replaceable baseboards that hide cable runs, I s…

I don’t know any media converter that would work for that but you can get a Thunderbolt SFP+ ethernet adapter. For example: https://www.sonnettech.com/product/solo10g-sfp-tb3/overview....

Re: If you get the chance, always run more extra network fiber cabling

#55
post #8

1. High-level, the post is all wrong. The point should be that you always need to make sure you can pull new cable . The poster illustrates this: single mode, multi mode, non-fiber, etc, etc. And if one "goes bad", you still can't run a new one, unless you have a pullstring. 2. The post cannot apply to fast/large networks - will be prohibitively expensive. 3. If running a few at home, I suggest to run MTP/MPO. It's b…

> And if one "goes bad", you still can't run a new one, unless you have a pullstring.

The one that went bad is the pullstring.

Re: If you get the chance, always run more extra network fiber cabling

#56
post #31

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> Only a single ethernet port in the basement. Then the kid wanted a gaming station and we moved where the TV was. I should have put like 4 down there. https://store.ui.com/us/en/category/all-switching/products/u... Unless you meant with regards to routing the cables throughout the space, like now it’s on the opposite wall from the port. I’ve definitely shoved cables under baseboards, but you can also pull them off a…

> You can also get baseboards (that look nice in a home) then double as cable runs. Interesting. That would be great in the basement. I will look into it.

Dont forget Powerline adapters - if you have it all on one loop they are surprisingly effective if you have extra power sockets!

Re: If you get the chance, always run more extra network fiber cabling

#57
post #50

No mention in the article of making sure to run conduit , so you can always add more cables easily.

This right here is important. We could be running fiber end to end in the near future. Ethernet would end up obsolete like the phone line.

How would running fiber make Ethernet obsolete? Physical medium and framing on the wire are fairly orthogonal.

Re: If you get the chance, always run more extra network fiber cabling

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post #57
post #50

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This right here is important. We could be running fiber end to end in the near future. Ethernet would end up obsolete like the phone line.

How would running fiber make Ethernet obsolete? Physical medium and framing on the wire are fairly orthogonal.

People commonly use the word "Ethernet" to mean "Ethernet cable", as in a copper cable with an RJ45 on it, not just "Ethernet protocol", which is used over both copper and fiber alike.

Re: If you get the chance, always run more extra network fiber cabling

#59
> Fiber comes in two varieties, single mode and multi-mode. I don't know enough to know if you should make a point of running both[…]

Let me fill this in: in 2025 you (and everybody else) should be running SMF. If you need to directly connect to existing MMF you should run that additionally. But do not build MMF-only in 2025. It's akin to installing Cat5 (non-E) or even Cat3. And you pay mostly for the work, not the cable. Do yourself a favour and put SMF in.

Re: If you get the chance, always run more extra network fiber cabling

#60
post #46
post #29

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I routinely wish someone had designed a power outlet shaped switch that runs on POE. But some brands would run too hot for an enclosed space and a Netgear one would burn your fucking house down.

I've seen some 'in-wall' access points that might be kind of what you're looking for. Designed for hotels, etc, they have an ethernet port on the back with poe-in, and usually two ethernet ports on the front, and also do wifi. I have no experience with them, though.

There are modular jacks that can expose 6 or 8 different connectors on one outlet. I just figured the hotel ones were a slightly more sophisticated version of that.
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