Let's be clear. The industry plan for surveillance state is completely nuts.
Expect toilets with AI analytical options over your feces and automatic report to your AI doctor. Transactional charges automatically included in your social scoring profile and carbon tax.
I won't connect my dishwasher to your cloud
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Re: I won't connect my dishwasher to your cloud
#412Earlier quoted context omitted.
renting nowadays is a nightmare if you dislike this stuff. You may be forced into: - "smart" door locks or garage - wifi connected thermostat - specific provider for building internet - various appliances: washer, dryer, fridge, stove, microwave, dishwasher - "package room provider" with cameras and privacy policy to photo/video of you, your address, your phone number (for access codes) - and of course the applicatio…
I'm sure it differs from jurisdiction to jurisdiction around the world, but the application processes are categorically insane. Feed all of your personal information, very very personal information, into this form with this provider that will keep it on file and definitely do nothing else with it for X years, or you can't have anywhere to live. It wasn't even so bad when there was only one provider so at least you di…
In my country you usually browse the advertisements, call the owner, and if you like the apartment (and they like you) you can sign the contract and move in.
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#413Earlier quoted context omitted.
When five years ago thieves broke into my sons' class locker room, they stole all android phones and cash but didn't bother to take iphones. So yes it works or at least it did back then.
This isn't really consistent with the theft statistics, e.g. 68.6% of stolen phones are iPhones[1] (in the UK where they have ~44% market share). This is presumably because of higher resale value etc., but the premise that nobody cares to steal them anymore evidently hasn't panned out. [1] https://www.loveitcoverit.com/news/changing-world/mobile-pho...
I'm sorry that the reality in a locker room of a Norwegian high school is not consistent with British statistics.
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I had sort of the opposite situation. I needed a new washer and all the top rated ones according to Consumer Reports included WiFi. I asked at Home Depot if the one I was thinking of getting, an LG WM3400CW, required me to actually use the WiFi and they said no. I used it for a few weeks without ever even trying to set up WiFi and everything was fine. Then I found at that when you set up an LG washer for WiFi you can…
Wouldn't it be great if a universal standard existed for devices sending their diagnosis via audio? If there is a microcontroller and a beeper in there anyway, at only the extra cost of internal memory? Instead of a modem-type modulation and a speaker, make use of the bare minimum piezo beepers and send something that is universally understood? All of that without FCC, no extra hardware cost, no backchannel und thus…
> Wouldn't it be great if a universal standard existed for devices sending their diagnosis via audio?
LG must have some internal standard for this feature. If they would just publish it and then that could be the standard.
Edit: to the downvotetards, if you worked in actual engineering like I do, then you would understand that this is how most standards naturally materialize. Someone does one thing particularly well, it becomes the standard.
Re: I won't connect my dishwasher to your cloud
#415That feeling when someone put the story on Louis Rossman wiki today https://wiki.rossmanngroup.com/wiki/Bosch_Cloud_Dishwasher_I...
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I don't believe this. It's illegal in many countries. No way a large German (after Dieselgate they all are very cautious) company like Bosch would make such a stupid move. If they did they'd face countless lawsuits and a ban in many countries (first would be the USA).
The only thing I have ever heard about Bosch major appliances is that people hate them.
Their washing machines and dryers are best in class IMO. At least in Europe they still have a reputation for quality.
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#417I live in an apartment building whose walls don't really attenuate RF at all. And like most of the building I have a Samsung "smart" TV. So most evenings I get three or four screencast requests from neighbors' phones that I have to deny. That's annoying enough but it also stops whatever I'm watching in the process. The manual didn't include instructions for turning off Bluetooth, and when I called Samsung they said y…
Did you try to talk to your neighbours?
I have no way of knowing which one it is, and I can't get to the floors above and below mine
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#418Earlier quoted context omitted.
The problem is the control board/electronics was not the only thing going south on that GE unit. The door hinges were giving way, the door gasket had started to get iffy (not quite leaking yet, but it needs a new one), the top rack doesn't go in and out easily anymore... All those parts aren't even made to be fixable anymore. At least if it's a pump or control board, those are relatively swappable. The rail system se…
We have had more luck with our appliances: * The clothes dryer only needed a new circuit board that cost half of a replacement. * The microwave only needed a new magnetron that cost the price of a new microwave oven. - Some would find this insane, but none of the new microwaves matched the kitchen decor and replacing everything to make it match the latest fad would have been truly insane. * The refrigerator’s gasket…
There are plenty of dishwashers now that will do fine without rinsing the dishes beforehand, even e.g. LG models that are not expensive.
Needing to rinse used to be the norm, but if one buys a dishwasher in the 2020s that won't work without rinsing in advance, one is getting scammed out of their money and time by lazy manufacturers, IMO.
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#419Earlier quoted context omitted.
I had sort of the opposite situation. I needed a new washer and all the top rated ones according to Consumer Reports included WiFi. I asked at Home Depot if the one I was thinking of getting, an LG WM3400CW, required me to actually use the WiFi and they said no. I used it for a few weeks without ever even trying to set up WiFi and everything was fine. Then I found at that when you set up an LG washer for WiFi you can…
Wouldn't it be great if a universal standard existed for devices sending their diagnosis via audio? If there is a microcontroller and a beeper in there anyway, at only the extra cost of internal memory? Instead of a modem-type modulation and a speaker, make use of the bare minimum piezo beepers and send something that is universally understood? All of that without FCC, no extra hardware cost, no backchannel und thus…
An appliance could just have blutooth so it can connect to an app on your phone. With the machine not having a direct internet connection, the app can collect diagnostics, metrics and do software updates. Require you to press a button in the machine to pair it to your phone.
99% of the functionality with 0 annoyance and ~0 security/privacy risks.
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#420Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't believe this. It's illegal in many countries. No way a large German (after Dieselgate they all are very cautious) company like Bosch would make such a stupid move. If they did they'd face countless lawsuits and a ban in many countries (first would be the USA).
The only thing I have ever heard about Bosch major appliances is that people hate them.
I don't know where you've heard this. As a European when I hear Bosch I think reliability and quality. I'd much rather buy a Bosch dishwasher/washing machine over any other brand, wifi or no wifi.