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Re: European Cloud, Global Reach

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There's a lot of negativity and nit picking here. Upcloud are OK, Hetzner are better in my opinion for a lot of things. Nothing is perfect and European providers need to start somewhere. We all know there are tradeoffs and limitations but there's no need for a pile on.

> Our 100% SLA ensures uninterrupted services, empowering businesses worldwide to thrive.

Avoid ANY company that makes this claim.

I'm European and European providers need to start by not being dishonest, we can't just give 'em some slack just because they are "ours". I'm not putting my data into a company that can't even be honest about their actual reliability.

Re: European Cloud, Global Reach

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post #156

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> A bit like complaining that fraud is hard because of those pesky police officers. Yes, this is the intention. GDPR did not lead to any actual changes for the company, except they set up a fancy web-page about how serious we where about GDPR. That's the intention? Many companies cannot possibly remove the info GDPR demands, as they barely know they have it, and they will use minimal efforts to fiddle with this stuff…

> That's the intention? The intention, I believe, is that it discourages from collecting superfluous data. The easiest way to address the GDPR is to not collect any data at all. If you do, then it becomes harder. > as they barely know they have it, and they will use minimal efforts to fiddle with this stuff. Big companies have a real incentive to act. I believe the GDPR has forced BigTech to make at least some change…

> is that it discourages from collecting superfluous data

Wouldn't that require some kind of actual policing? Here (in Norway) at least, police does not use any of their time trying to access random data systems looking for personal info stored in violation with GDPR. This is not something anyone fears, so as long as you say you are OK, you are OK.

> Big companies have a real incentive to act.

The company I worked for was almost as big as they come here in Norway (handled extremely sensitive personal information also). We are full of clown tech companies here as well (just like your 'Epic Health Journals' etc.). These kind of companies cannot comply with these types of rules, they cannot even make their own systems work properly.

Re: European Cloud, Global Reach

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post #156

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> That's the intention? The intention, I believe, is that it discourages from collecting superfluous data. The easiest way to address the GDPR is to not collect any data at all. If you do, then it becomes harder. > as they barely know they have it, and they will use minimal efforts to fiddle with this stuff. Big companies have a real incentive to act. I believe the GDPR has forced BigTech to make at least some change…

> is that it discourages from collecting superfluous data Wouldn't that require some kind of actual policing? Here (in Norway) at least, police does not use any of their time trying to access random data systems looking for personal info stored in violation with GDPR. This is not something anyone fears, so as long as you say you are OK, you are OK. > Big companies have a real incentive to act. The company I worked fo…

> Wouldn't that require some kind of actual policing? Here (in Norway) at least

Maybe a dumb question, but have you actually reported the company to your DPA? I think the DPAs have some agency to perform investigations on their own, but currently they're mostly acting on user complaints, whistleblowers and self-reporting by the organization itself, so if none of the people involved (on either side) reports the organization, the DPA won't know where to even begin.

Seemingly you have a good inside view with clear evidence of breaking GDPR, so I assume you've reported this organization then?

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